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> Hey what was section 5 then?? > P There once was a brainy baboon who always breathed down a bassoon for - he said - it appears that in millions of years I shall certainly hit on a tune Arthur Stanley Eddington (sometimes wrongly attributed to Ezra Pound - no joke! ) 2008/5/29 Patrick McManus <[log in to unmask]>: > Hey what was section 5 then?? > P > > -----Original Message----- > From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On > Behalf Of kasper salonen > Sent: 28 May 2008 21:06 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: As someone once said > > this looks like an interesting read at first, but soon dissolves into an > anti-polemicist polemic. which is what gets me. > > I find myself agreeing in principle, vaguely, with some of Astley's points > on elitism; but at the same time I agree, for instance, with the reviewers > of those three books (in section 22) talking about the covers -- nauseating. > (for one thing, why is Daisy Goodwin's name so prominent on the cover of the > middle one if she's just edited it? seems like trick lighting, to make her > seem like an Author) > > and I actually DO think there's a difference between "selling and selling > out" -- I've not yet come to grips with promoting poetry really, and I can > certainly see the value & necessity of being somewhat inclusive rather than > extremely exclusive; as long as there's an integrity to the writing itself > that has less to do with readers than Astley would like & absolutely nothing > to do with making the poetry sell. > > oh shucks. > I wonder why there's always such a fracas about poetry & its readers, who > they should or shouldn't be. people who like poetry will read it! and since > new readers are likely to start from classics anyway, what's the whole SELL > IT deal about exactly? is there some new breed of poetry that is gasping to > be born, a kind of 'current-only' movement that wants new readers to start > with the writing of their own age? I can't make it out. that's the thing > about gangwars, probably; the causes & motivations soon distort or vanish. > but hey I don't know what I'm talking about :) > -- David Bircumshaw Website and A Chide's Alphabet http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/ The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.co.uk