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>I notice no-one has actually said anything about the article in question. I read it, dave -- blah, a list of names, and no quotations, so what's to say? > Michael Hoffman of course has nothing to do with the class system. It > is natural that public school pupils figure so much in the culture > industry and, I repeat, has nothing to do with class. MH is indeed a class to himself. I once sat through a 30 minute workshop he gave, and spent 28 minutes of it writing notes for a poem. He was virtually inaudible, which was probably as well since the few phrases I caught would have made more sense if they had been unintelligible. On the evening of the same day, I actually managed to sit through a reading he gave. Again totally inaudible. Which was more than another member of this list who was with me did, preferring to leave at the interval spitting blood. Even Aged Etonians, so I'm told, prefer to cross the road rather than risk being accosted by him. As hard cases make bad law, let's just leave Michael Hoffman where he belongs. R.