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On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Vicki Sowry <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > For this reason, it generally takes 2-3 months of liaising before we can > lock off contracting for each residency and this usually entails joint > ownership. Hullo Vicki Do you have templates or guides for best ways to navigate that kind of joint ownership? I am hoping to have this kind of discussion in an education context about different ways of perceiving value. I think there is a different model of understanding by sponsors of projects which comes along with an open community practice. Value by restriction is reasonably new and tied to idustrial publishing models so there are likely to be useful precedents and patterns which did not get caught up in that pattern but here are some first thoughts about what needs to shift for the funding groups and entities which aim to map value(research?) An ability to see value in projects which have been initiated or conceived by others and to contribute funding to those works. An ability to recognise value in contributing towards sustainability of infrastructure or ongoing capacity rather than enclosed or completed projects which might use those spaces, events, technologies, standards. Knowing that licences on collaborative projects after they have been agreed to and commenced is one of the few immovable objects. Get them right and dont mess with them. Transparency, trust, consistent messaging around purpose, scope, collaboration, criteria, value, win win kinds of marketing and celebration are all important. Divisive marketing or win lose models or practices are expensive in an open participative context. Extreme care with potential loss of data at end of life for project or end of funding which might not also mean end of life for project. ie real choice for contributors around what happens next. Preferably these should be thought through in advance but if not possible then openly at the time. Single points of failure, eg any authority gateway which must say yes in order for progress to occur must be extremely efficient or needs to be built with redundancy so that there is minimal sense of disempowerment or delay of commitment through waiting for permissions or other decisions by specific sources. I think these all probably mean something like good flow or circulation, people being able to have authority to be responsible for themselves as much as possible, processes and culture which are respectful of impact of actions of others including outside of the project itself ie. a sort of wider ecological awareness. A preference for the continuation/adaption/expression/exploration/implementation of a meme rather than the restriction of the item as an underlying preference and value proposition. Janet