I know measuring chains were about in the later sixteenth century, but I suspect (this is not something I know much about) that they were used mainly for smaller scale mapping, like estate maps, at that stage - may be wrong. Lyn B ----- Original Message ----- From: Inui Hideaki To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 1:13 AM Subject: Re: [LOCAL-HISTORY] measuring the ways Using measuring chains was then less common? When did measuring chains emerge and generalize as tools? H.I. 2008/5/25 Peter King <[log in to unmask]>: I think the answer is not quite as simple as has been suggested. Ogilvy's maps are unlikely to be the answer as they only related to a few roads. In the 19th century, the Post Office measured the roads and found that the reputed distances differed significantly from the actual ones. I suspect people judged it by how long the journey took. Peter King 49, Stourbridge Road, Hagley, Stourbridge West Midlands DY9 0QS 01562-720368 [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: From: Local-History list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Lyn Boothman Sent: 25 May 2008 00:29 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: measuring the ways I suspect that there would have been a local 'knowledge' of how far somewhere was, both in miles and in how long it took to get there on foot or on a wagon, in good weather or bad. How 'far' it was, as in whether it was worth going, or how long it would take, might be very different in the middle of a wet winter when the wagons couldn't get through ... You might not say that it was 12 miles to X but you might well say that it was twice the distance as it was to Y, or say that it's a day's travel on horseback or whatever. Lyn B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hideaki Inui" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 11:55 PM Subject: [LOCAL-HISTORY] measuring the ways To All I would be most grateful if you could inform me of how the parishioners or inhabitants in mid-17th century rural England measured the distance between their own parishes and the market towns? Regards, H.I