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I reacted earlier today saying yes to splitting the list. Must say it was a bit of a knee jerk reaction. Having read the evidence from both sides I think I wish to change my mind and go with the view expressed here and by many others. If we stick to the standard suggested, ILL request followed by tile of journal then it is easy to see if you can help or not and simply bin tem if you can't. Agree it will reduce the response rate if it went into a separate list. Chris Library Services Manager, South Birmingham PCT -----Original Message----- From: UK medical/ health care library community / information workers [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brine, Jenny Sent: 06 May 2008 11:30 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Splitting the list to separate out ILL requests? Dear colleagues, I too would prefer to keep a single inclusive list. lis-medical gives an overview of what is going on in medical libraries in the UK and even though the detail of work in NHS libraries is not directly relevant to me it is useful to have some idea of what is affecting sectors other than my own. The subject line of the email clearly indicates that an ILL request is involved and in most cases I don't bother to even check our catalogue as I know it isn't the sort of material we hold. But on occasion I can help and am happy to simply delete the emails which I know don't involve me. That said, there IS a mailing list specifically for interlending and document supply librarians and many requests for obscure materials posted there are successful. Quite a few people working in libraries abroad are on that list too, which makes it particularly useful for foreign-language requests. It is a jisc list called lis-ill. (I'm its list-owner because I was an ILL librarian in my last post). You are welcome to join it for just a few days if you want to post a request for something which has not been satisfied from lis-medical. There has also been mention of a national union catalogue of journals. It may be more productive to consult SUNCAT, a general union catalogue of serials which is expanding rapidly and is available to everyone free-of-charge. http://www.suncat.ac.uk/ It is very useful for verifying details of journals, especially older and foreign-language titles. Jenny Dr Jenny Brine Subject Librarian, Health & Medicine, Mathematics & Statistics, Computing & Communication Systems, Lancaster University Library Bailrigg Lancaster LA1 4YH [log in to unmask] 01524 - 592545 -----Original Message----- From: UK medical/ health care library community / information workers [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Woodley Zena (RQ8) Mid Essex Hospital Sent: 06 May 2008 10:43 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Splitting the list to separate out ILL requests? I agree with Mark: it takes how long to hit 'delete', if you haven't the journal? Ciao, Zena Zena Woodley B.A.(Joint Hons), MCLIP ~ Library Resources Manager ~ The Warner Library, Broomfield Hospital, Chelmsford CM1 7ET T: 0844 8220002ext 4310 e: [log in to unmask] Ask an Information Expert - it's what we do. All day. Every day. -----Original Message----- From: UK medical/ health care library community / information workers [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mark Kerr Sent: 01 May 2008 12:56 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [LIS-MEDICAL] Splitting the list to separate out ILL requests? To be fair, I think the fact that most ILL requests seem to be satisfied shows that this is exactly the target audience... And function-specific lists? This is one. It's for the medical librarian community isn't it? or have I stumbled in to a private club that accidentally left its door open? (That sounds slightly grumpier than it's meant to!). Or else logically should there be separate lists for jobs, one for events etc etc etc. Simpler just to regard those few seconds deleting as a very small price to pay for keeping access open to hundreds of colleagues all happy to help when it's called for. There's dozens if not hundreds of lists that have one or two posts a month - highly relevant, but pretty pointless - far better to be a busier more inclusive list, surely, even if there is some extra 'noise'. In my three months on this list, I've only tried one ILL request here, and got no response (some are too obscure even for here), and I've replied to one, and got a thank you. That seems a fair use of my email inbox... Mark -------------------------------------------------------- Mark Kerr (x76020) Clinical Librarian, CCHCS Kent and Canterbury Hospital ---------------------------------------------------- >>> Danielle Worster <[log in to unmask]> 01/05/2008 11:53 >>> Dear All, I think that a separate list for ILLs is a good idea. I find I never request documents on this list and either end up filtering or deleting loads of emails that aren't relevant. These can take up lots of disk or server space unless one is diligent at deleting, so there are practical considerations here. However, if I were to use the listserv to request documents, I would also want to return the favour to other people looking for documents, and therefore want to be a member of an ILL-specific group. I don't think it should be too much to ask for listservs to be separated by function. And seeing as many of us are filtering out these emails, the senders are not reaching their broad target audience anyway. Or, since it sometimes feels like the non-ILL requesters are in the minority, perhaps that group could split off. Just a different way of looking at it, I suppose. Thanks for a good, active discussion! Danielle ________________________________ From: UK medical/ health care library community / information workers on behalf of Merriott Sue Sent: Thu 5/1/2008 10:43 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [LIS-MEDICAL] Splitting the list to separate out ILL requests? Dear list At the moment, although it is not my role to deal with ILL requests, I will occasionally nip out of my office and have a look on the shelves for something that has been requested urgently on the list, but I definitely wouldn't bother to join a separate list specifically for ILLs. It doesn't take long to delete unwanted e-mails, and hey, what a great feeling when you can demolish a large number of those e-mails just sitting in your in-box!! Sue Sue Merriott Library Services Manager Worthing Postgraduate Centre Worthing & Southlands Hospitals NHS Trust Park Avenue Worthing BN11 2HR 01903 285025 [log in to unmask] Click here <https://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/wQw0zmjPoHdJTZGyOCrrhg==> to report this email as spam. 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