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Craig I was meaning 'good' in the sense of interesting, provacative, well written, based in personal experience. Speaks to the dangers of overextension /preoccupation with being positive in the face of real suffering, injustice and despair. Links the remarkable popularity of postitive psychology to the broader politics and culture of american society but doesnt dismiss the power of some of it. I thought it resonated in part with the west midlands critique of layardism. Workwise I am tied up with thinking about and promoting 'recovery' across a range of care groups. Hope is a central feature of recovery. A lot people who who are in disrepair or despair not surprisingly want to be met by/be with people who are positive and who can help them keep it together in bad times and find a way through. Kristjana Kriastiansen in her chapter 'Recovery in Psychosis - Moments and levels of collaboration' in Susan Hunter and Pete Ritchies book 'Co-Production and Personalisation in Social Care' talks about hopefulness not 'chronicity thinking' as being an essential step forward. She also quotes Helen Glovers reference to human services workers as 'holders of hope'. Her social role valorisation credentials show through. The chapter is strong on the social nature of any recovery process and what you need over and above hope. Youd like it because she also emphasises the small everyday things. I am interested in the apparent lack of an account in the recovery movement of why mental health services are the way they are. Big Pharma or Psy doesnt really do it for me.They are part of something bigger and more comlex. But maybe there is more of an account in the original consumer/survivor movements writings. I havent read them yet. As usual I am late to the party. What are they/we recovering from? Why has the social model taken so long to arrive? Its not as if its new. Whats going on in society now that it can get a big foot in the door at last? I guess I also learnt from 'normalising' 'learning disability' services the futility and counterproductive nature of splitting and dumping the badness and the blame on the staff and the system. Seems important that the same mistakes are not made again. Richard On 5/2/08, Craig Newnes <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > When you say, "good" are we to understand that this is a site you agree > with (unlike the last one when you said that agreeing with links wasn't a > necessary conclusion)? I quite like www.vegansforhitler.com > C > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* richard pemberton <[log in to unmask]> > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Sent:* Friday, May 02, 2008 7:02 AM > *Subject:* Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] ketchup and caviar > > > http://ketchupandcaviar.com/2007/03/19/pathologies-of-hope/ > > this is good > > richard > > ___________________________________ COMMUNITYPSYCHUK - The discussion list > for community psychology in the UK. To unsubscribe or to change your details > visit the website: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/COMMUNITYPSYCHUK.HTMLFor any problems or queries, contact the list moderator Rebekah Pratt on > [log in to unmask] or Grant Jeffrey on [log in to unmask] > > ------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.7/1408 - Release Date: > 30/04/2008 18:10 > > ___________________________________ COMMUNITYPSYCHUK - The discussion > list for community psychology in the UK. To unsubscribe or to change your > details visit the website: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/COMMUNITYPSYCHUK.HTML For any problems or > queries, contact the list moderator Rebekah Pratt on > [log in to unmask] or Grant Jeffrey on [log in to unmask] > > ___________________________________ COMMUNITYPSYCHUK - The discussion list for community psychology in the UK. To unsubscribe or to change your details visit the website: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/COMMUNITYPSYCHUK.HTML For any problems or queries, contact the list moderator Rebekah Pratt on [log in to unmask] or Grant Jeffrey on [log in to unmask]