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If anyone does, and they are the person who programmes cards for the copier, I would love to talk to them. After about 5 years since we last did it, I can't remember how to set cards to count upwards, rather than take value off the card... and I can't find the information in the instruction book! Dorothy Dorothy Halfhide MA (Hons) MA DipLib MCLIP Library Information Services Manager Peterborough & Stamford Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust Laxton Library PGMC Thorpe Road Peterborough PE3 6DA 01733 874662 Fax 01733 875848 "This message may contain legally privileged, confidential, commercial or patient information intended to be for the use of the individual(s) or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please advise the sender and destroy all copies of the message as you would any other confidential waste (shredding or incineration for printed-copies, deletion for electronic copies). Please note that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited."