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Can anyone clarify what is meant by: "Until the end of July 2008, EDINA services that support Athens login will continue to do so; after that, with the possible exception of services noted above, Athens login will be discontinued" http://edina.ac.uk/supportstaff/access_notes.html I presume the Shibboleth to Athens Gateway does just that? Provides Athens login to EDINA resources? (shibb -> athens). 2+2 = EDINA resources not accessible via Shibboleth to Athens Gateway, as part of OpenAthens subscription, after July. Or is that 2+2=4? Alistair -- mov eax,1 mov ebx,0 int 80h