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Nice discussion Would love to hear a bit more on the material as affirmative Jim dan ______________________________ Dan Goodley Professor of Psychology and Disability Studies Manchester Metropolitan University RIHSC Psychology and Social Change Gaskell Campus Manchester, M13 0JA Tel: (+44) 0161 247 2526 Fax: (+44) 0161 247 6842 E-mail: [log in to unmask] http://www.rihsc.mmu.ac.uk/ ** NEW ESRC FUNDED PROJECT "Does every child matter, post Blair? The interconnections of disabled childhoods" http://www.rihsc.mmu.ac.uk/postblairproject/ ** NEW BRITISH COUNCIL/PMI2 FUNDED PROJECT http://www.rihsc.mmu.ac.uk/malaysiaukdisability/ For details of recently completed research projects and related research activities, please visit: http://www.shef.ac.uk/disabledbabies/ http://www.shef.ac.uk/jobsnotcharity/ Before acting on this email or opening any attachments you should read the Manchester Metropolitan University's email disclaimer available on its website http://www.mmu.ac.uk/emaildisclaimer >>> James Overboe <[log in to unmask]> 04/30/08 3:39 PM >>> As a graduate student this book was suggested by a professor as enlightening. While it was a personal account and the author is allowed to share his personal experience. it was framed within disability as a loss and a personal tragedy perspective. You write that "he describes experiences and reactions wse have all had". my experience with the book reading it in 1990 was revulsion much like when i read stigma by Goffman much earlier. So i could not see myself in this book and feel the quote was not taken out of context. James Overboe Assistant Professor Sociology Department Cultural Analysis and Social Theory M.A. Program Wilfrid Laurier University >>> Barbara Altman <[log in to unmask]> 04/30/08 10:10 AM >>> It is a shame that Murphy's quote is taken out of context.. His book is a personal account of his gradual drift into quadriplegia from a spinal cord tumor - the language may be a little dated, but the examination of the psychological and social effects is enlightening. You might want to read the book, he describes experiences and reactions we have all had. Robert F. Murphy, The Body Silent, 1987 Henry Holt and Co, New York -----Original Message----- From: The Disability-Research Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Halvor Melbye Hanisch Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 9:04 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Murphy liminality and impairment All, To tackle and fight this, Uggh! is necessary but not sufficient. For a first step: Does anyone have the original reference. This kind of quotes are probably more informative to us (as opposites, that is, of course) if we "locate" them. It is their location, their power etc, that makes them worthy of our criticism. H. On 30.04.2008 14:39, James Overboe wrote: > Hello Helen and All, > > Actually I am not surprised at the quote. At the risk of opening an old chestnut, Murphy's book the "silent body" as a source is often used to buttress the support for the impairment model of disability. Murphy draws on the concept of liminality - not alive and not dead disability occupying the space between. > > Myself I agree with the Tremain who sees impairment as socially constructed. I do not deny the materiality of the body but see it as affirming. > > cheers, > Jim > > James Overboe > Assistant Professor > Sociology Department > Cultural Analysis and Social Theory M.A. Program > Wilfrid Laurier University >>>> "Bryant, Helen" <[log in to unmask]> 04/30/08 8:25 AM >>> > C H A P T E R 1 3 (In ‘Disability Studies: Past Present and > Future’ edited by Len Barton and Mike Oliver (1997), Leeds: The > Disability Press, pp. 217 - 233). > > Cultural Representation of Disabled People: dustbins for disavowal? > Tom Shakespeare > (First published 1994) > http://www.leeds.ac.uk/disability-studies/archiveuk/Shakespeare/chapter13..pd f > > The long-term> neither dead nor alive, neither out of society nor wholly in it. They > are human beings but their bodies are warped or malfunctioning, > leaving their full humanity in doubt. They are not ill, for illness is > transitional to either death or recovery.... The sick person lives in > a state of social suspension until he or she gets better. The disabled > [sic] spend a lifetime in a similar suspended state. They are neither > fish nor fowl; they exist in partial isolation from society as undefined, > ambiguous people. (Murphy, 1987, p. 112) > > How about THIS for a quote? UGGH! Can you believe how RECENTLY it was written? > > > The information in this e-mail is confidential to the intended recipient to whom it has been addressed > and may be covered by legal professional privilege and protected by law. > Reading Borough Council does not accept responsibility for any unauthorised amendment made to the contents > of this e-mail following its dispatch. > > Reading Borough Council has scanned for viruses. 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