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My favorite weirdness along these lines is self citing with no acknowledgement of what is being done: "The sorry state of journalistic standards (Swanson 1998), especially as applied to the 2000 US presidential elections (Friedman 2008), is. . ." In other words, this must be true because I said it ten years ago and as an impartial observer I declare myself to have been right. I suppose some citations are meant to say "This was written about previously; read the original" but they usually come off as "This is a done deal; why argue with decided law?" so self citation without comment or explanation is awkward at best. Gunnar ---------- Gunnar Swanson Design Office 1901 East 6th Street Greenville, North Carolina 27858 USA [log in to unmask] +1 252 258 7006 http://www.gunnarswanson.com at East Carolina University: [log in to unmask] +1 252 328 2839