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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture John I am now back home. I agree that Eubel is rare (I had to sit in the 'special' part of the National Library of Scotland to read it the other day) but Emden and the Handbook of British Chronology should be available at most good reference libraries. Emden is now out of print and exorbitant to buy second hand but HBC is still available for £53 from Cambridge University Press and £38 from Amazon. As it lists all known (3rd edn 1986) kings, office holders, bishops, lords, parliaments, convocations, etc I find it invaluable to have by my desk and even felt able to buy it as an impoverished postgraduate. I also bought the modern edition of Le Neve's Fasti which the Institute of Historical Research was selling very cheaply some years ago - they are now available for £20 a volume but their indexes are on History On-Line (www.history.ac.uk). If you would like me to send you a copy of the pages on suffragans (5) from HBC, I can try to send them as an email attachment (if I can scan them) or send a photocopy by post. Let me know. By the way, HBC lists Bottlesham as bishop 'Navatensis' - but does not identify the diocese. I have also checked the RHS bibliography (www.rhs.ac.uk/bibl) and it produced the following articles (the first of which may very well answer all your questions - or may not as is the nature of things academic): Butler, Lawrence A. S. 'Suffragan bishops in the medieval diocese of York'. Northern History, 37 (2000), 49-60. Publisher: Maney. ISSN 0078172X. O'Connor, Donal. 'Eugenius, bishop of Ardmore and Suffragan at Lichfield (1184-5)'. Decies: Journal of the Waterford Archaeological & Historical Society, 60 (2004), 71-90. Smith, David M. (David Michael). 'Suffragan bishops in the medieval diocese of Lincoln'. Lincolnshire History and Archaeology, 17 (1982), 17-27. ISSN 04594487. Smith, David M. (David Michael). 'The episcopate of Richard, bishop of St. Asaph : a problem of twelfth century chronology'. Publications of the Historical Society of the Church in Wales, 24 (1974), 9-12. Dahlerup, Troels. 'Orkney Bishops as Suffragans in the Scandinavian-Baltic Area : an aspect of the late medieval church in the North'. In Simpson, Grant Gray (ed.), Scotland and Scandinavia, 800-1800 (Edinburgh, 1990), 38-47. I hope this is of some use. Best wishes Rosemary Hayes ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Briggs" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [M-R] Sufragan Bishops > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > > John Briggs wrote: >> >> Perusing the edition of the Pontifical of Christopher Bainbridge, >> Archbishop of York, I discover that his suffragan was John Hatton, >> Archdeacon of Nottingham and Bishop of Negropont. Wasn't that rather >> unusual? I was under the impression that in late medieval England >> suffragan bishops were usually Irish bishops - or rather, that >> recourse was had to someone whose nominal see was in Ireland, but who >> rarely went near the place. Are there any other instances of having >> one of your own clergy appointed to a titular see? > > OK, to answer my own question: I don't have access to sources that people > have mentioned, so I have had recourse to a crude online version of > Stubbs' Registrum Sacrum Anglicanum. It would appear that Hatton was > appointed Prebendary of Givendale (York) in 1503; and Prebendary of > Ulleskelf in 1504. He was appointed Archdeacon of Nottingham in 1506, > having apparently become Bishop of Negropont (in partibus infidelium) the > same year. He was appointed as Suffragan by Bainbridge when he became > Archbishop of York in 1508, but it seems to me likely that Hatton had been > Suffragan to Bainbridge's predecessor, Thomas Savage. (Just to complicate > matters, Bainbridge had been Dean of York from 1503 to 1505, so would have > known Hatton.) Hatton was succeeded as Bishop of Negropont in 1515 (he > died in 1516) by Richard Wilson, Prior of Drax, who was Suffragan to > Thomas Wolsley 1515-18. I still see him as an "in-house" appointment, > which doesn't seem to be the general pattern. > > The use of Suffragans in partibus infidelium becomes increasingly popular > from 1340 until 1534, when following the Act of Supremacy they are > superseded by the Suffragan Bishops Act [still in force - authorising > their appointment and allowing them to take the titles of towns within the > diocese], England having lost contact with the "partes infidelium"... > > John Briggs > > ********************************************************************** > To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME > to: [log in to unmask] > To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] > To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion > to: [log in to unmask] > In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] > For further information, visit our web site: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html