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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Thank you Jim. I quite like the idea of Laon cathedral. I need to check whether any of the exiles ended up there. One would think that the St Nicholas church should be easier to identify as rarer. Any ideas anyone? If you think that it could be any of the Marian shrines, I would be grateful for any suggestions. I went all the way through Newcourt's Repertorium and did not think it could be any of the parish churches in the London diocese but may have missed any extra parochial churches. Apart from his diocese, Hill's home connections seem to have been with the diocese of Salisbury and he held prebends in St David's and Chichester so if there is anyone who knows those dioceses well, they may have further ideas. It may also be that I am seeing an 'L' where I should see an 'H' or something else. You (or anyone else?) would not care to look at the will to check my palaeography would you - I can send it off-list as an attachment? best wishes Rosemary ----- Original Message ----- From: "jbugslag" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 1:50 AM Subject: Re: [M-R] help with Bishops John Hales (d1490) and Richard Hill (d1496) > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > >> I am really hoping you will be able to help me identify two churches >> to which Bishop Richard Hill of London (1489-96) left vestments. They >> appear to be St Mary 'de Liaunnes/Liaumes/Lianntes' and St Nicholas >> 'de Lortn'. I cannot identify them with any church he is know to have >> held or any London benefice. I think he may have joined Henry Tudor >> in exile, because he was deprived of his benefices after Buckingham's >> revolt in 1483 and was dean of the chapel royal as soon as Henry >> became king. Do any of our members in France/Brittany have any ideas? > > Dear Rosemary, > I have been trying to gather information on Marian shrines in England for > a while -- no easy > task after several hundred years of efforts to assign English medieval > pilgrimage sites to > oblivion. There were quite a few Marian shrines in and around London, but > I am not aware of > any that fit your bill. In France, Laon and Liesse are about the closest > I can think of. I > wonder if "Liaunnes" might actually be something like "Les aunes", since > Marian shrines were > quite often associated with trees. Its a bit undigested, but if you wish, > I could send you the > material I have for London and environs. > Cheers, > Jim Bugslag > > ********************************************************************** > To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME > to: [log in to unmask] > To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] > To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion > to: [log in to unmask] > In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] > For further information, visit our web site: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html