Jeremy You might want to check out this paper. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16628607?ordinalpos=10&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum We routinly average up 7-8 MPRAGE studies in order to reduce motion in the high-res anatomical images. You can judge the quality of the individual segments by running a histogram analysis on them pk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy R. Gray" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 11:13 PM Subject: [FSL] combine two MPRAGEs? Hi FSL'ers, I'm new to FSL (really liking it so far). I'm hoping for advice on the best approach to combining two MPRAGE images from the same subject. This is for 100+ subjects, and so I will script it. the idea is to end up with one higher-quality image to use in structural analyses. one image is from the start of the scan session, and the other from the end (~1.25 hours later). flirt seems like the way to go, so I searched the archives and the flirt lecture notes from the web (pdf), but did not see something on combining MPRAGES. my apologies if I missed it. one question is: - is it always better to combine two images? presumably there could be pathological cases (e.g., lots of movement resulting in a blurry image) where a single good MPRAGE is better than combining one good and one bad -- so is there a way to tell that you are in such a situation (especially for a script to tell this)? just inspect afterwards? using flirt seems straightforward: - prior to flirt, run bet -B on each image (= my interpretation of flirt lecture slide #45). but maybe for having the same sequence, the non-brain stuff will actually help the alignment? and maybe doing bet on the combined image will give a better extraction (for having a higher-quality input)? - just pick one image to use as the reference, "better quality" should be moot with 2 MPRAGEs (except in pathological cases) - a rigid body 6-parameter model seems fine because the images are from the same subject, same scanner, same day. is there any possible advantage to more df for my situation? - search option = "already virtually aligned" is probably fine - cost function: correlation ratio is the default in the GUI. however, I've heard that normalized mutual information is very good, in particular is robust to small non-brain bits left over from brain extraction. any reason not to use NMI (especially if I do bet prior to flirt)? - trilinear interpolation (= default) -- any advantage to sinc? thanks much, --Jeremy /*------------------------------------------------------------- Jeremy R. Gray, PhD Assistant Professor, Yale University Dept. of Psychology & Interdepartmental Neuroscience Program mail Box 208205, New Haven, CT 06520-8205 USA office SSS 212 http://maps.google.com/maps?q=1+Prospect+St,New+Haven phone 203-432-9615 (office) fax 203-432-7172 (include Attn J. Gray) web http://www.yale.edu/scan/ -------------------------------------------------------------*/