Dear Brian,
 
Agreed.
 
And, I'd just like to add - perhaps as a cryptic cross word clue to a different way of thinking - that there's a huge underlying philosophical distinction between the rationalistic notion of 'collaboration' (and its counterpart, 'opposition'/'competition'), which is implicitly predicated on the definitive dislocation of subject from object, and inclusional, dynamic relational 'co-creativity', which isn't.
 
The potential for abuse and prescriptive/retrospective learning that sterilely reinforces and reproduces old standard agenda and endless factual detail without opening up possibilities for new kinds of knowledge and understanding (learning) lies in the dislocation. The potential for truly innovative evolution of knowledge and understanding lies in the dynamic relational, improvisational co-creativity of living educational theory and natural inclusion.
 
Oh, the joyfully fluid indeterminacy of continually living in dynamic boundaries! Oh, the misery of collaborative coercion within the box!
 
Come to think of it, why have so many living theory PhDs been successful if they don't contribute to new knowledge and understanding?
 
 
Oops, just tripped over my coat trails! Jack did tell me knot to!
 
 
Warmest
 
Alan
 
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Of Collaborative Studies, Hatch (2002, p33) writes:  " it is possible to do research in collaboration with practitioners but not with the specific intent of changing the the practices of research participants. 
 
Why not?
 
I've had colleagues from HE working with me in school to help me improve practice. They came at my invitation as skilled facilitators, members of the TIQL Project based at Cambridge.
 
Now later in life I'm invited into classrooms to assist colleagues develop understanding and improve practice.
 
 
"Collaborative research here refers to work that is distinguished from action research because its principal aims are the generation of knowledge and understanding. "
 
Another statement that may be challenged.........? 
 
Can't action research have  principal aims of generating understanding and knowledge, and another of improving the quality of learning and teaching ?
 
I heard John Elliott lament at one BERA that ........many AR projects were not generating new knowledge...........but  they are capable of raising hypotheses about how practice might be improved. Many projects involving collaboration do both , don't they?
 
What do colleagues think?
 
Brian
 




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Of Collaborative Studies, Hatch (2002, p33) writes:  " it is possible to do research in collaboration with practitioners but not with the specific intent of changing the the practices of research participants.  Collaborative research here refers to work that is distinguished from action research because its principal aims are the generation of knowledge and understanding.  It is assumed in collaborative qualitative research that it is valuable to bring both the insider and outsider perspectives to the analysis of phenomena under investigation.  It is also considered desireable to include research participants as full partners in the research process, thus addressing concerns that researchers sometimes "use" the individuals they are studying, taking more than they are giving in the research bargain.
 
I wonder what others in this Special Interest Group make of Hatch's view.  I would particularly like to know what Jack (Whitehead) makes of it.  Jack of course is free not to respond to issues raised on this listing such as this, but he did he invite debate in the first instance by suggesting this theme and I consider it a poor show to then stay silent ... or perhaps I am mistaken.
 
Pro bono
Barra Hallissey

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