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I would be inclined rather to look at 7.1G Items without a collective
title, which refers to motion pictures and videorecordings as chapter 6
is for sound recordings - if the material was recorded off television
rather than radio.
Best wishes
Sheila 


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Date:    Fri, 1 Feb 2008 15:55:36 -0000
From:    "Cooper, Gill" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Cataloguing Off-Air Recordings

Hi Jane=20

I catalogued off-air recordings many moons ago.

My advice would be to go for 3 separate records, as what you are dealing
with here are "unpublished" recordings, which are bibliographically
unrelated - they just happen to have been put on the same tape.

AACR calls them "nonprocessed sound recordings" and defines that in a
footnote at the bottom of 6.4C2 as a "noncommercial recording that
generally exists in unique copy". There are a few references to them
from the index, all to Ch. 6, but nothing very helpful.

1.1G2 and 7.1G2 would only be applicable if you were cataloguing a
commercially published recording,

Hope this helps,

Gill
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Hi Jane

I'd take AACR2 rule 1.1G2 as my starting point and would incline to the
option of 3 separate linked records if your system is able to handle
that option OK (though it does depend on how full a catalogue record you
typically create as to how easy and effective it would be to use just 1
single record for the whole tape.

If you do go for 1 record, then rule 1.1G3 gives an example of how to
record the title and 7.1G2 gives an example for a video.  And of course
all these rules refer on to other rules for related issues (like
recording extent).

BTW the ERA licence requires a header with details for each programme -
I presume that the tape complies with that requirement.

Hope this helps.

Michael=20

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Subject: Cataloguing Off-Air Recordings

Hi,

Does anyone have any experience of cataloguing off-air recordings where
programmes from different series have been recorded onto 1 tape?

I have a tape with the following programmes recorded on it:

Classic Trucks Part 6 Monsters
Visions of Heaven and Hell Part 3 Virtual Wasteland Secret Lives Part 1
Walt Disney

I'm wondering what the 245 should look like!

Can anyone offer advice or point me to some online examples please?

Thanks!

Jane Daniels
Information Advisor - Cataloguing
UWIC

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Many thanks to everyone who took the time to respond to my message.=20

Problem tape now catalogued!

Thanks again.

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Date:    Thu, 31 Jan 2008 08:42:19 -0000
From:    Michael Emly <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Cataloguing Off-Air Recordings

Hi Jane

I'd take AACR2 rule 1.1G2 as my starting point and would incline to the
option of 3 separate linked records if your system is able to handle
that option OK (though it does depend on how full a catalogue record you
typically create as to how easy and effective it would be to use just 1
single record for the whole tape.

If you do go for 1 record, then rule 1.1G3 gives an example of how to
record the title and 7.1G2 gives an example for a video.  And of course
all these rules refer on to other rules for related issues (like
recording extent).

BTW the ERA licence requires a header with details for each programme -
I presume that the tape complies with that requirement.

Hope this helps.

Michael=3D20

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Sent: 30 January 2008 14:52
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Subject: Cataloguing Off-Air Recordings

Hi,

Does anyone have any experience of cataloguing off-air recordings where
programmes from different series have been recorded onto 1 tape?

I have a tape with the following programmes recorded on it:

Classic Trucks Part 6 Monsters
Visions of Heaven and Hell Part 3 Virtual Wasteland Secret Lives Part 1
Walt Disney

I'm wondering what the 245 should look like!

Can anyone offer advice or point me to some online examples please?

Thanks!

Jane Daniels
Information Advisor - Cataloguing
UWIC

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