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Nick, If you have registered with the UK Federation and you want to access DreamSpark using AthensIM, then you should select your own institution from the WAYF, not 'Eduserv Athens'. You should only choose 'Eduserv Athens' if you are using AthensDA or you use classic Athens accounts (ie created through the Administration interface or bulk upload). Neil Neil Drage Application Development Team Leader Certified PRINCE 2 Practitioner RedHat Certified Technician Sybase ASE and Replication Server specialist Eduserv Technologies Ltd managed hosting and development ________________________________ [log in to unmask] tel: +44 (0)1225 474345 fax: +44 (0)1225 474332 http://www.eduserv.org.uk/athens/ ________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Discussion list for Shibboleth developments [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nick Howes Sent: 20 February 2008 12:22 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: LA (Re: LA (Re: Another good reason to deploy an Idp)) Neil Drage wrote: > Colin asked "what about all the students in sites that have not yet > implemented an IdP?". For universities and colleges that haven't > implemented Shib IdPs you can carry on using OpenAthens to access this > service. OpenAthens is a member of the UK Federation and so it does > allow users to log into DreamSpark, and users doing this are identified > as students. > > We worked closely with Microsoft last year on this project to ensure > that OpenAthens users were able to use DreamSpark. Thanks for your response Neil. Does the above suggest that we should be able to authenticate now using our AthensIM service (part of OpenAthens as I understand it). I did try using the "Eduserv Athens" entry in Dreamspark's WAYF, but got the Athens error "Your home organisation does not use the Athens to Shibboleth gateway to access this service. Please contact the service provider or home organisation for assistance." Should this work or have I misunderstood? We're working on getting a working Shib 1.3 (or 2.0) instance IdP going for UK Federation membership, but it isn't ready for use yet. It would be good if we could give students access now. Nigel: It isn't looking like Shib 2.0 is going to be ready before July, which is when we were planning to have an IdP ready by. Personally I think we'll stick with 1.3 for our first release, and then have a lovely time converting all the configuration when 2 comes out. Nick