 |
 |
Did you? We did here, but what was more noticeable was the absolute lack of energy/enthusiasm for any other CPD, even once their compulsory qualifications were complete. >>> "Hann, Naeema" <[log in to unmask]> 02/01/08 4:11 PM >>> Good point for debate about teacher qualifications rather than exams for ESOL learners. I was sad to lose experienced and creative, effective teachers. Naeema -----Original Message----- From: ESOL-Research discussion forum and message board [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sunderland, Helen Charlotte Sent: 01 February 2008 15:36 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Standardising qualifications I hear this a lot and am really interested in what exactly you do in order to get learners through exams that you wouldn't do otherwise. Is it just exam preparation, or is it also language that you wouldn't teach? And, if so, what language exactly? Just trying to get a picture. Helen Helen Sunderland Head of ESOL Assistant Director, LLU+ London South Bank University 103 Borough Road London SE1 0AA tel. +44 (0)207 815 6285 fax. +44 (0)207 815 6296 LLU+ (formerly London Language and Literacy Unit) Why not visit our website at ww.lsbu.ac.uk/lluplus ________________________________ From: ESOL-Research discussion forum and message board [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Matt Davis Sent: 01 February 2008 14:05 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Standardising qualifications Friday afternoon point for debate: On the whole, the drive to standardise qualifications in the sector - obligating often highly-qualified practitioners to assign precious time to a course which they feel has little worth - has had a substantial negative impact. Anecdotal evidence includes: experienced teachers leaving the profession as they feel they commitment is not worth making on a fractional contract; resentment towards 'management' imposing the requirement and a resulting downturn in good vibes; lack of time and inclination to do other, more relevant (?), CPD options; and probably more... Any thoughts? -- Email has been scanned for spam and viruses by Altman Technologies' email management service <http://www.altman.co.uk/emailsystems/> Any queries regarding these services should be emailed to [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> or you can check our web site at www.lsbu.ac.uk/email/ <http://lsbu.ac.uk/email/> for up todate information about this service. *********************************** ESOL-Research is a forum for researchers and practitioners with an interest in research into teaching and learning ESOL. ESOL-Research is managed by James Simpson at the Centre for Language Education Research, School of Education, University of Leeds. To join or leave ESOL-Research, visit http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/ESOL-RESEARCH.html A quick guide to using Jiscmail lists can be found at: http://jiscmail.ac.uk/help/using/quickuser.htm To contact the list owner, send an email to [log in to unmask] -- Copyright in this email and in any attachments belongs to London South Bank University. This email, and its attachments if any, may be confidential or legally privileged and is intended to be seen only by the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, please note the following: (1) You should take immediate action to notify the sender and delete the original email and all copies from your computer systems; (2) You should not read copy or use the contents of the email nor disclose it or its existence to anyone else. The views expressed herein are those of the author(s) and should not be taken as those of London South Bank University, unless this is specifically stated. London South Bank University is a company limited by guarantee registered in England and Wales. The following details apply to London South Bank University: Company number - 00986761; Registered office and trading address - 103 Borough Road London SE1 0AA; VAT number - 778 1116 17; Email address - [log in to unmask] *********************************** ESOL-Research is a forum for researchers and practitioners with an interest in research into teaching and learning ESOL. ESOL-Research is managed by James Simpson at the Centre for Language Education Research, School of Education, University of Leeds. To join or leave ESOL-Research, visit http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/ESOL-RESEARCH.html A quick guide to using Jiscmail lists can be found at: http://jiscmail.ac.uk/help/using/quickuser.htm To contact the list owner, send an email to [log in to unmask] To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm *********************************** ESOL-Research is a forum for researchers and practitioners with an interest in research into teaching and learning ESOL. ESOL-Research is managed by James Simpson at the Centre for Language Education Research, School of Education, University of Leeds. To join or leave ESOL-Research, visit http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/ESOL-RESEARCH.html A quick guide to using Jiscmail lists can be found at: http://jiscmail.ac.uk/help/using/quickuser.htm To contact the list owner, send an email to [log in to unmask] *********************************** ESOL-Research is a forum for researchers and practitioners with an interest in research into teaching and learning ESOL. ESOL-Research is managed by James Simpson at the Centre for Language Education Research, School of Education, University of Leeds. To join or leave ESOL-Research, visit http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/ESOL-RESEARCH.html A quick guide to using Jiscmail lists can be found at: http://jiscmail.ac.uk/help/using/quickuser.htm To contact the list owner, send an email to [log in to unmask]