Interesting as well that ESOL Level 2 (which includes the National Literacy Test) does not seem to be accepted by universities as proof of language/literacy competence, while a GCSE A to C (also Level 2) does... for a native speaker anyway. Perhaps it would be if the student was overseas and paying tens of thousands of pounds.
 
Cynically,
 
Matt

>>> James Simpson <[log in to unmask]> 20/02/2008 12:19 >>>
Hello all
I'd like to support Pam's comments: students find it difficult enough as
it is to negotiate their way through progression routes, without further
barriers being placed in their paths. If anyone can stomach this
conference, I hope they will raise this issue.
It's interesting to compare the situation in England with that of
Scotland. Perhaps a Scottish colleague will correct me if I'm wrong, but
I understand that Scottish ESOL qualifications come under the same
framework as mainstream Scottish education, with levels called Access,
Intermediate and Higher. I also think the ESOL Higher qualification is
accepted as a university entrance level qualification.
James


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If anybody is able to attend from the ESOL community perhaps you could
ask why the LSC has decided to cease funding of our only remaining L3
qualification, IELTS, from next academic year thus depriving our
learners of any progression route beyond Skills for Life to continue to
develop their English language skills, access HE study, enter certain
professions etc. I think it is still OK to study a modern foreign
language at A level with LSC funding, but not apparently ESOL.
Unfortunately it does not look as if a NATECLA spokesperson can attend
this conference-but we would very much like to know the answer.

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Dear Colleague,



DIUS would like to invite you to attend the "Skills for Employability:
Achieving our Level 3 Ambitions" conference taking place in Westminster
on Wednesday 19th March 2008.  Please see the flyer attached.


Speakers include The Rt Hon David Lammy MP, Parliamentary Under
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