Apologies for delay in posting this - responses came in for quite a while, so I waited, then found that the amount of information was very complex to analyse! There were 29 responses (including Leeds) - many thanks. Not everyone responded to every question, and the variety of staffing arrangements (every one different) makes it very difficult to draw general conclusions, but I'll try, and anyone who would like more detail about anything should let me know and I'll attempt to extract it. (NB: Annette Thomas is preparing a POCT questionnaire which will be much more comprehensive than mine, and undoubtedly better thought out, so more POCT information will be on the way from that). * POCT Group/Committee?: YES: 22, NO (but tried): 1, IN PROGRESS: 3, QUESTION NOT ANSWERED: 3 * POCT Coordinator/Manager?: YES: 23, NO 2. Others are writing business cases to appoint one, or gave no specific reply Of the YESes, many were part-time, with other departmental responsibilities. 12 were A4C band 7, but those actively involved in managing POCT may also be 8a, b or c (mainly clinical scientists, and mainly in large multi-site hospitals. These mostly have other responsibilities, being up to 0.9 wte in POCT). 3 large or fragmented sites mentioned having >1 coordinator, but not all of these were full time. * Dedicated POCT staff (other than coordinator.manager)? 10 mentioned these, every one different, with most being part-time (other departmental responsibilities). These staff could be senior clinical biochemists, BMS 1& 2, MTOs, or MLAs (bands 3-7). One respondent mentioned that clinical engineers looked after the blood gas analysers. * POCT staff who rotate OUT or other lab staff rotating IN 7 mentioned this - very variable, from band 2 to band 7 and mostly with notional part-time allocation which may not happen because of pressure elsewhere. The question is probably not applicable to most people, as it is clear that much support is not only highly variable, but is provided out of goodwill and a concern for POCT quality, which rarely get much interest from the Trust in terms of resources provided/posts approved. There were some comments that some lab staff are keen to be more involved in POCT. * Line management I asked this only as a supplementary question. Line management may by via BMSs or clinical scientists, usually within Biochemistry, but one respondent's line management arrangements were to the Pathology Directorate, which makes sense when there is increasing haematology and microbiology POCT. * Trainee biochemists in POCT? 9 said YES, with variable involvement, 1 is about to start involving them, 3 said NO, with 1 commenting that it was a good idea. Several others do not have trainees. * Equipment managed One respondent commented on the continuing difficulties of getting any interest from clinical areas in lab involvement in POCT Glucose meters were unsurprisingly the main system supported, varying from 30 to 450 meters - many systems networked Blood gas analysers were also almost universally supported, 2 - 28 per organisation. Some mentioned that Medical Physics/Biomed engineering (etc) supported their blood gas analysers. One respondent mentioned 55 i-STATs, supported by clinical engineering, implying that there were no conventional blood gas analysers. Mentioned by most: Urine meters: 2 to 60 Mentioned by some: HbA1c: 1 - 6 per organisation bilirubin meters: 1 - 3 i-STATs: 1 - 5 (in addition to those mentioned above) urine pregnancy testing, up to 16 2 respondents each: DOA screening, Co-oximetry 1 respondent each: FOB (31), O2 sat (1), Intraoperative PTH (1), TnT/myoglobin (4), urine osm (1), cholesterol (1), breath alcohol (1) Haematology tests (mentioned by several): ACT, FBC, TEG, Hb, INR. (Hemocue also mentioned by several, but this could also be for glucose) Microbiology (1 site): HIV, RSV, Influenza A & B * Duties/ responsibilities I didn't specifically ask for these, but some respondents have detailed job descriptions for POCT Coordinators/Managers. The range of duties will be of no surprise to anyone - equipment maintenance, troubleshooting, managing EQA schemes and user training being the main things mentioned. Several mentioned involvement with community POCT - GP practices, directly or via PCT, plus one respondent mentioning pharmacies, prison, dentists, nursing homes (I'm sure Jan won't mind me mentioning that this is her impressively comprehensive service, in its enterprise, if not vast numbers). My main conclusions are * that POCT management is being provided remarkably comprehensively by many biochemistry departments (and a small number by pathology as a whole) despite great difficulties with staffing. Of course staffing pressures exist across the whole laboratory service, but since POCT is being done very visibly around our hospitals and in the community, we might reasonably expect more understanding by Trusts of the importance of managing it properly, and therefore resourcing it. * that as a result, the way POCT support is staffed is highly variable * that more support should be provided for haematology and microbiology POCT. Only a minority of Trusts provide as comprehensive support for these as for biochemistry systems Annette Thomas' presentation on Accreditation and POCT (ACB Regional Meeting, Harrogate) last week indicated that ISO 22870:2006 and ISO 15189 mean that the governing body of the organisation is ultimately responsible for ensuring that measures are in place to monitor the accuracy and quality of POCT conducted within the organisation. This sounds like good news. Perhaps we should all push our Trusts to work towards CPA accreditation of POCT, or must we rely on the implied threat of litigation to push this for us? Some of us already use POCT "Horror Stories" to great effect in our user training! Many thanks again to all who replied. Joan Dr MJ Pearson Department of Clinical Biochemistry & Immunology Old Medical School Leeds General Infirmary (Leeds Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust) LEEDS LS1 3EX UK tel (44)-[0]113-392-3945 fax (44)-[0]113 392-3453. http://www.leedsth.nhs.uk ------ACB discussion List Information-------- This is an open discussion list for the academic and clinical community working in clinical biochemistry. Please note, archived messages are public and can be viewed via the internet. Views expressed are those of the individual and they are responsible for all message content. 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