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Maybe "ungendered professionalism" sounds "homogeneous and unappealing" to you, but not to me. I value good, deep thinking. Whether that thinking comes from men or from women is irrelevant to me. Cheers. Fil Fiona Jane Candy wrote: > Hi Lubomir > > Yesterday I showed two prospective students around the Design Department where I work. I took them first into the textile workshop (where I teach). There were around 30 female students working in there (there are currently no males on our Textile Innovations degree). I went from there to the Games Design studio where there were 30 or 40 male students working (there are currently 3 female students on our games design degree, although I should explain that there are now two female tutors on the team). > > Gendered thinking was almost palpable as we moved from one room to the next. > > Can't let you get away with your ideology of the ungendered nature of professionalism. It makes professionalism sound very homogenous and unappealing. > > Cheers Lubomir, I know that your provocation is only an intellectual challenge. > > :) > > Fiona > > www.a-brand.co.uk > > >>>> "Lubomir S. Popov" <[log in to unmask]> 01/19/08 3:31 pm >>> > Hi Teena, > > Please do not make provocations. You know how much contentious is > this subject matter. This can be the beginning of a major gender revolution! > > I am a proponent of non-genderized science and professions. In the > professions, there should be no men and women. Men and women are in > the bars and in bed. In the professions we have doctors, engineers, > architects, planners, not men and women. If someone performs with > his/her gender thinking on the workplace, that is too bad. That is an > indication that this person is not professionalized. Professional > thinking should be unisex and specific only to the profession. When > professionalized, men and women have to give up their streetwise > gender thinking in favor of professional thinking. Anything other > than that indicates lack of professionalization. > > There are a lot of myths in the world. Some of them are about dumb > blondies. Others are about caring women. And so on. The bottom line: > there is too much ideology introduced in today's world and sadly, in > the professions. All kinds of myths are disseminated in order to > obtain a better position in the process of acquiring resources. > > I can talk a lot about this, but this is enough. > > Best wishes Teena, I know that your provocation is only an > intellectual challenge. > > Lubomir > > At 04:44 PM 1/18/2008, teena clerke wrote: >> Dear All, >> >> I have a question for the list: >> >> Q: If aliens were to abduct all the male design researchers from >> this world, how do you think the field of design research will develop? >> >> Teena -- Filippo A. Salustri, Ph.D., P.Eng. Department of Mechanical and Industrial Engineering Ryerson University 350 Victoria St, Toronto, ON, M5B 2K3, Canada Tel: 416/979-5000 ext 7749 Fax: 416/979-5265 Email: [log in to unmask] http://deseng.ryerson.ca/~fil/