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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture I appreciate your response. Certainly he was odorous, but was this a real accomplishment in the middle ages? I think there is a difference between the odor of piety (some would call this piosity)--a very real odor which I have smelled many times--and odorless sanctity. The problem is there were no instruments to measure this in the middle ages and we are dependent upon the noses and descriptions of middle evilians, mostly hagiographers, who did not always distinguish between piety and sanctity. I realize I am not documenting--being a stickler on documentation--but according to one late medieval source the reason the Muslims lost Spain to the Christians was that the Muslims bathed regularly where as the Christians were more pious. V. K. Inman There is another list I am on, on which everything I have said would be taken as academic proliferation and challenged with recommendations like--read the Wikipedia article by Jedd Klampet on this subject. Right Rochelle, Bob? Quoting Charles Giguere <[log in to unmask]>: > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > > No, no, it is money that has no odor. I remember reading the life of a holy > abbot (alas, I no longer remember whom), who did not change his clothes nor > bathe for some 40-50 years "as many," assured the hagiographer, "could > testify." > > Bernadette Filotas. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "V. Kerry Inman" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 11:56 AM > Subject: Re: [M-R] Odor of sanctity > > > > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > > > > Has anyone ever done research on the "odor of sanctity" or are there > >> any historical descriptions of > precisely what this odor is?> > > >> Suggestions? > >> Direction? Cries of Anquish?> > > George (again)> > > >> > > > > My own research has indicated that sanctity has no odor. One of the > > reasons it > > is sanctity. > > > > V. K. Inman > > > > ********************************************************************** > > To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME > > to: [log in to unmask] > > To send a message to the list, address it to: > > [log in to unmask] > > To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion > > to: [log in to unmask] > > In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: > > [log in to unmask] > > For further information, visit our web site: > > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1207 - Release Date: > > 02/01/2008 11:29 AM > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME > to: [log in to unmask] > To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] > To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion > to: [log in to unmask] > In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] > For further information, visit our web site: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html > ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html