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Dear Greg,

On Jan 31, 2008 8:43 PM, Greg ----- <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Is it feasible to use fsl's cluster thresholding alongside fdr to look for
> regions of activation or is this considered "fishing for result" per se?
>

FDR aside, doing both cluster- and voxel-wise inference isn't "fishing" per
se, but it will result in inflated false positive rates.  Hence, once has to
commit to a single inference strategy before seeing the data to be sure you
can trust your P-values.

To be clear, cluster inference in FSL always uses a familywise error (FWE)
correction--a 0.05-corrected significant cluster controls the chance of 1 or
more false positive clusters anywhere in the brain.  Similarly, the standard
FSL voxel-wise corrected significance controls for the chance of 1 or more
false postive *voxels* anywhere in the brain.  FDR is only available for
voxel-wise inference (it has been proposed for cluster inference, but FDR
works best with many many tests and sparse signals, and there just aren't
that many clusters in a typical image).

Hence your question suggested a combination of FWE cluster-wise inference
and voxel-wise FDR inference, which isn't so much apples and oranges, as
apples and turnips.

Hope this helps!

-Tom

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Thomas Nichols, PhD
Director, Modelling & Genetics
GlaxoSmithKline Clinical Imaging Centre

Senior Research Fellow
Oxford University FMRIB Centre