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I think this is fine.

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On 28 Jan 2008, at 20:36, Jeffrey Spielberg wrote:

> Hi, great, thanks.  I have another question about Fsl-vbm/Randomise  
> usage.  Are there some designs that are appropriate for use in Feat  
> but not in Randomise (in Fsl-vbm in particular)?  Specifically, we  
> want to use a one group design correlating two questionnaire scores  
> with grey-matter.  We set this up similarly to the example on the  
> Feat webpage, for example,
>
> Group    Mean    Quest_1    Quest_2
> 1           1          2.6            9.4
> 1           1          7.3            5.7
> 1           1          4.9            4.3
> 1           1          4.6            3.6
> 1           1          9.2            8.6
>
> with one cope for the mean, one for each questionnaire, and one for  
> the difference between the two questionnaires.  Is this design  
> appropriate for Randomise/Fsl-vbm?  Thanks,
> Jeff
>
> On Jan 26, 2008 1:21 AM, Steve Smith <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 24 Jan 2008, at 21:57, Jeff Spielberg wrote:
>
> > Hi, I have a couple of questions regarding Fsl-vbm and First.  The
> > scans we
> > have been using for both have some signal loss superiorly and
> > inferiorly.
> > Due to this we do not get a good extraction with Bet (brain is
> > excluded top
> > and bottom).  We have been dealing with this issue by correcting for
> > the
> > bias field with Fast and have gotten good results.  Since Fsl-vbm
> > applies
> > Bet we have entered bias-corrected scans into our Vbm analyses.
> > However,
> > will this cause problems when segmentation is done in
> > fslvbm_2_template (or
> > anywhere else in Fsl-vbm)?
>
> The bias correction is fine, but if you have already run BET that
> might compromise the FSL-VBM when you feed the already-betted image
> into FSL-VBM. The simple solution is to apply the bias field
> correction to the original image and feed that into FSL-VBM. That
> should be fine then.
>
> > Also, is it best to use the bias-corrected scans in First as well?
> > It seems
> > possible that not correcting scan intensities for the bias field  
> will
> > interfere with the identification of structures (since First uses
> > intensities in this process), thanks,
>
> If it looks like the bias field correction has improved the image then
> it should be better to feed the corrected image into FIRST than the
> original.
>
> Cheers, Steve.
>
>
> >
> > Jeff
> >
>
>
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