> can still be justified. The whole point about the qualified rights is > that they can be overridden, and in my opinion, not just by specific > powers, but by general ones. > I take your point. And you are probably right. But it all depends what you mean by 'general powers' and how they are used. Qualified conventional rights can be infringed by a public authority, but only where the infringment is according to law, necessary and proportionate. And I would suggest that to be 'according to law', the law has to be clear and unambiguous. For a minor infringement, perhaps a 'catch-all power' will do quite nicely. For a major infringement (for example, a forcible non-voluntary taking of an intimate sample), it seems to me that nothing less than express words would do. In such a case, a general power such as one 'to collect whatever evidence may be expedient to an investigation' (I know there's no such power.. it's just an hypothetical example), would in my view, just not be good enough. But this sort of thing will provide much scope for judicial creativity in the years to come, I think .. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm Any queries about sending or receiving messages please send to the list owner [log in to unmask] Full help Desk - please email [log in to unmask] describing your needs To receive these emails in HTML format send the command: SET data-protection HTML to [log in to unmask] (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^