> hi Mogg
>
> I think Ronald wrote that Wicca was the religion that Britain gave the
> world (or words to that effect) , I doubt he'd have said the other remark
>
> and I'd argue Britain gave the world Thelema and Chaos Magick too : )
>
> dave e
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mandrake" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:38 AM
> Subject: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] Witchcraft/Nature worship talk. Midlands,
> England.
>
>
>> Dave
>>
>> that was also my impression when looking at the figures for the Oxford
>> Council of Faiths -
>> paganism is a very small (but influential minority) - which is no bad
>> thing - but after a while the hyping of our numbers gets a bit
>> embarishing - I wonder if its Ronald Hutton who put about the idea that
>> it was 'UK's fastest growing religion' -
>> which i really do have doubts about??
>>
>> Personally I do self identify as a 'pagan' but i know many others
>> would not go that way at the time of the at census.
>>
>> bb/93
>>
>> mogg
>>
>>
>>
>> D E wrote:
>>> my research with the census data was to give some supporting numbers of
>>> pagans in the UK, but I compared that to 'straight' religions to give an
>>> idea of the minor scale, and the census numbers included a lot of
>>> Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Sikh, atheists etc, and to
>>> artificially aggregate all neopagans into one lump to force them into
>>> number 7 on the list is, imo, duplicitous and criminal data-chiselling,
>>> especially when that aggregate might well include the 1500 or so who
>>> self-labeled as Satanists, and who would presumably abhor wiccans/pagans
>>> almost as much as they abhor xians.... plus a few thousand Druids, who
>>> in many cases are as much 'Celtic christian' as much as they are pagan,
>>> and a whopping 32 thousand Spiritualists, (ditto for nominally christian
>>> underpinnings), with only just over 7000 self-labeling as Wiccan
>>>
>>> with maybe (a big maybe) 120-140,000 being nominally pagan or something
>>> similar (this includes all the small numbers of Santeria, Asatru etc)
>>>
>>> and that figure is simply dwarfed by the 390,000 Jedi Knights : )
>>>
>>> dave e
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Fergus Wilson"
>>> <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 7:06 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] [Norton AntiSpam]
>>> [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] Witchcraft/Nature worship talk. Midlands,
>>> England.
>>>
>>>
>>>> D E wrote:
>>>>> *suppresses laughter*
>>>> Well, I'm delighted to have brought happiness - suppressed or not - to
>>>> your your day.
>>>>
>>>>> this isn't the same census data I spent hours working with few years
>>>>> back, then .....
>>>>>
>>>> Did your findings vary then? It would be very useful if you would share
>>>> it :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>
>>>>> /Paganism is the oldest religion in the World, dating back to the
>>>>> cave man. And it's still growing in popularity. At the last
>>>>> census (2001), Paganism was the 7th largest religion in the UK -
>>>>> and it's grown in popularity since then. /
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>