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Hi Felicia, I don't think the Gardnerian initiations are anything at all like "straight out of the OTO's Man of Earth initiations" as you suggest. The OTO's 1st and 2nd are very different to Wicca's 1st and 2nd, and the Gard 3rd degree is , if anything, like Crowley's Gnostic Mass, certainly nothing like the OTO 3rd degree. ~Caroline Tully. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Felicia" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] Witchcraft/Nature worship talk. Midlands, England. Yes, but a fragment from Leland does not a "corpus" make when the rest of the Charge of the Goddess is a plagiarism of Aleister Crowley's Liber XV EGC Mass or, at best "borrowed from", without either attribution or intent to restore. Plus, the Gardnerian initiations are straight out of the OTO's Man of Earth initiations. So, if I were going to label "the corpus", I'd say it's decidedly Brit in origin unless one is discussing Crowley's influences, e.g., Theravada Buddhism via Bhikkhu Ananda Metteyya (Charles Henry Allan Bennett). My point being that we should be careful about our choice of words if this discussion group is to live up to any pretense of academic rigor. Felicia Swayne-Heidrick On Jan 31, 2008, at 8:12 AM, janet ifimust wrote: > Well, at the very least, there was some influence from Leland >> and, a most unfortunate thing for Ronald to say in my opinion - >> given the distinctly _un-_British nature of the Wiccan corpus! >> Ken R.