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Nice idea, but to get compensation for the distress you first need to
prove damage (see section 13(2)(a)) and we all understand how impossible
it will be to prove that any particular instance of fraud was causally
linked to the breach
 


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Surely now the time for these people and others to sue for damages and
distress.
 
Chris Tinsley MSc
Wiltshire County Council
 
 
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I wonder if all the employees of MI5 and MI6 are on that database
including people working under cover? I would suppose that a seriously
organised criminal or intelligence agency would be quite interested in
such a database. 

Aside from the criminal gangs, there are seriously bad, yet well
organised people, who scheme to get their hands on this type of  data.
How much would a gang pay to know the identity of a witness in the
protection programme?  How much would a foreign government pay to have a
way to cross check identities or to find ways to verify someone's
background? 

I wonder how difficult it would be to suborn a lowly data officer, who
has, apparently, lots of access to super sensitive data.  Probably not
likely as that stuff only happens in the movies and national insurance
numbers are not super secret stuff any way.   

Best, 

Lawrence 

Lawrence W. Serewicz
Policy and Partnership Manager
Corporate Development Unit
Wear Valley District Council
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On Wed, 5 Dec 2007, Brenda Scourfield wrote:

> http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1295689,00.html

Of course you know what will happen - eventually the disks will be find 
(or we will be told that they have), and the Government will make a big 
statement about how all that data is now safe again and everyone can
relax 
-- simply glossing over the glaringly obvious fact that the disks could 
have been copied thousands of times and sold on in the intervening
period.

Even had they not maliciously 'gone astray', just misplaced through 
carelessness, when someone finally finds the envelope and realises what 
they are, would you trust them not to make a copy anyway, having seen
all 
the publicity?  Maybe not for someone within the organisations at either

end, but what about all the people in the distribution chain between?  
What vetting does the courier firm involved perform on its employees?

That's the great thing about digitisation, you can 'get' a digital
object 
without from someone without actually needing to deprive that person of 
also 'having' it, which is why licensing and copyright are such
difficult 
areas in the digital arena.

Jethro.

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. Jethro R Binks Computing Officer, IT Services University Of
Strathclyde, 
Glasgow, UK

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