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As a long term insider (I was an observer on the DCP national executive for over 20 years) I would add that some on the list don't seem aware how embedded the BPS is in these power structures. Two examples; the DCP has pursued statutory regtistration of psychological therapies since at least 1990 despite arguments about closed shops and the much more critical position that you can't legislate for conversations between consenting adults. On the CBT front Peter Kinderman, when chair, was wetting himself with pleasure when invited to the DoH planning committees on the future of CBT. He was following close in the footsteps of Glenys Parry, Malcolm Adams and Anne Richardson, all of whom had gone from chairing the DCP to senior positions in the DoH as expert advisors. The BPS have been embroiled in the planning game at govt level since at least 1987 tho curiously many of the individuals doing this seem to have the envy driven "psychology good" "psychiatry bad" rubric. Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Smail" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] FW: Mental Health and Employment > Annie - in response to your last two postings. > > I think you do an excellent job of listing the difficulties, and I also > see > little chance of things changing in the short or medium term. I think > perhaps that one of our problems is that we (insofar as one can talk of > 'we' > on this list!) are both apathetic and scornful in the face of the > institutions of power (though not at all in other ways), whereas those > 'we' > often see as 'them' (e.g. Layard et al.) are patient, persistent, > industrious - sometimes, indeed, obsessive in the lengths they will go to > to > find their way around the structures that shape and support our society. > As > an example, I think a perusal of the 'CORE' website (start at > http://www.ucl.ac.uk/clinical-health-psychology/CORE/CBT_Framework.htm) is > instructive. Until I read it,I for one had no idea how thoroughly > embedded > the CBT lobby had become in the DoH,etc., and one can see some of that > influence reflected in the dismaying document you attached. > > I don't of course know what the answers are - if there are any - but I > doubt > if press releases will achieve much, even if they get taken up. > > David > > -----Original Message----- > From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Annie Mitchell > Sent: 04 December 2007 07:59 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] FW: Mental Health and Employment > > Dear all, > > Lots to critically comment on re the attached latest government > initative.. > For example note the business language in this. People are called > customers. > > Annie > > > ________________________________________ > From: Social Inclusion Discussion Group > [[log in to unmask]] > Sent: 03 December 2007 13:28 > To: Annie Mitchell > Cc: Ana Padilla; Graham Turpin > Subject: [social-inclusion] Mental Health and Employment > > Dear Colleagues > > Please find attached a statement from Peter Hain Secretary of State for > Work > and Pensions. > > with all good wishes > > Nigel > P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail, or its > attachments > > > > Can we send this out asap, > > Many thanks, > > Fabian > > Dr. Fabian Davis > > Consultant Psychologist (Community & Social Inclusion) Lead for Social > Inclusion Bromley Mental Health Services Oxleas NHS Foundation Trust Ist > Floor Keswick House 207A Anerley Road Penge London SE20 8ER > > Tel: 020 8778 9548 > > ________________________________ > From: Carol Chads [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: 30 November 2007 17:25 > To: Carol Chads > Subject: > > > Dear All > > Please see the attached for your information. > > Best regards > > Brendan > > Brendan McLoughlin, > Programme Director for Wellbeing, Inclusion and Psychological Therapies, > London Development Centre, part of the Care Services Improvement > Partnership, 11-13, Cavendish Square, London W1G 0AN Phone; 020 7307 2431 > Mobile: 07721 670863 > e-mail: > [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > > The British Psychological Society > > This email is intended for the addressee only. 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