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You should be paid a flat fee of $!2,000 to go to the annual MLA conference. Something like hazardous duty pay. Counselling should be made available if you return. I blew my chance when I accidentally micturated near Northrup Frye's shoe. He was standing next to me peeing and I realized who he was and whirled halfway about. With the sad result described. I reacted the same way when I was micturating next to Peter O'Toole several years later.you You get to feel that you know a person when you meet in this manner. I began the conversation by using the word "soigne." I then followed upwith a deft "soi-distant." I was holding an O'Toole Martini in one hand (which is, by the way, a swish of Glennlivet, icy Bombay Sapphire, Tio Pepe and an incendiary twist of orange) and gesticulatingwith the other which may account for the fact that Peter was lookingwildly about during our conversation. I mentioned that I would liketo manufacture a prosthesis that could be fitted around the shoulders of gentlemen under their jackets to help their jackets drapein the O'Toolish manner beloved by all. He seemed quite agreeable but he zipped up after bouncing only once (Nature has, presumably, favored him with the ability to do this and remainquite dry) quickly moved out of the way of the amber stream ofmy own contentment (the man moves like a fencer) said something cheery to me in High British and was out the door. On 11/1/07, M. Borges Accardi <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > I'd posted the job announcement originally because I felt for 12 units per > semester $25,000 was an inadequate salary for university > teaching--especially for a full time, tenure track position where office > hours and committee work were expected.? That salary would work out to a > take-home of about $1,300 a month (which would be a poverty salary in most > areas). I know where I live, rent alone is more than that. > > For an entry-level (non-adjunct university teaching job), I would expect > the salary to be at least in the $50-65,000.00 range.? An interesting > thread has ensued though. > > Imagine $360,000 a year for teaching!? One can only dream. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: joe green <[log in to unmask]> > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 2:44 pm > Subject: Re: insanity > > > > Oh, if you are teaching English Literature I think (as I said above) a > salary $360,000 a year should be adequate compensation. I know that even > in > our finest universities this is not offered. Above are my reflections > when > trying to choose a period in which to specialize. In 93 or so. I felt > that > the mental anguish of simply choosing and then having to actually teach > would mean I would require a salary of $90,000 a year. It's terrible, of > course, that teachers of English Literature are so underpaid. So here > were > my thoughts when trying to choose! I was working at Cray Supercomputer > then > and spent hours worrying about what period to specialize in. I then > considered my hourly rate and added dollars for mental anguish (I had some > acquaintance with English departments) and came up with this base rate. > > On 11/1/07, Anny Ballardini <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > Who told you that I do not teach literature. What are you talking about. > > What is your job? > > > > On 11/1/07, joe green <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > > > Yes, but you are not teaching English Literature. Perhaps the above > is > > > enough for teaching Creative Writing but it doesn't even begin to > cover > > > the > > > mental anguish of teaching English Liteature -- which begins with > > deciding > > > what period in which to specialize. Here's a glimpse into my thoughts > > > years > > > agone when I had to choose. > > > > > > English Literature: > > > > > > 1. Have the lesser poems of Anglo-Saxon bards been appreciated > enough? > > > Do enough young people know the word "kenning?" Would it be > > > nice to curl up by the fire in the long winter evenings we have > > > here and study Old Icelandic? Should I choose Anglo-Saxon? > > > Perhaps with enough work I could write a pleasant little > > > fairy story as I clench my pipe between tobacco-stained > > > teeth and chafe in my tweeds. Choice 1: Anglo-Saxon Literature > > > > > > 2. Ok. So I stare at Durer prints long and long and ever since > > > graduating high school have been prepared for life in the > > > 12th (the greatest of all) centuries. I know it was really > > > St. Don Bosco who invented basketball and can timor mortis > > > conturbat me with the best of them. Choice 2: Medieval Literature > > > > > > 3. The Renais... Hard to spell but good sex at last. (Medieval sex > > > is too much like what happened in the cloakroom of St. Cecilia's > > > in 1962). Marlowe's mighty line (What's your sign?), probably > > > worlds of sonnet sequences not yet completely explained. The > > > chance to entertain students with "jug, jug, jug, tereau tereau" > > > or a birthday bash for Thomas Nashe. Shakespeare and the chance > > > to know where all those book titles came from. I also suspect that > > > Shakepeare specialists are deferred to in courts of law and > > > gatherings of high school teachers taking a class for the summer. > > > A chance for a dotage a bit more dashing than that expected of > > > medievalists. Expansive explanations of bawdy and the significance > > > of nothing in Hamlet. "The wild dog shall flesh his tooth in every > > > innocent" and a glance at a widow now and then. Choice > 3: Renais... > > > Literature. > > > > > > 4. The (as they say) 17th century. Donne undone with Mary. The > > necessity > > > of Eliot. The laying on of sensibility. Wit. Perhaps I could > > > specialize in Herrick and dream of cream and strawberries and > > > niplets and Old Ben and a parsonage among the daffodils. Or -- > > > the great tone poems of Sir Thomas Browne. > > > > > > 5. The 18th century -- Age of Pope or Age of Johnson. A chance of an > > > invite to the White House or of, at least, entertaining Canadian > > > ladies on trains. Belindas &c. If Pope, a chance to dress > > > in a periwig and spit vituperation in heroic couplets with the > > > other fellows in the room hilariously dubbed "Gin Alley" at > > > the 18th century scholars conference. Automatic justification > > > for plotting against the radical dismals in the MLA. I am not > > > stout enough to carry off a Johnson speciality but are we > > > really satisfied that we know how many times Boswell had the > > > clap and don't we need yet another fellow recounting the story > > > of Johnson and the ghostly bishop by kicking the rock? Also > > > I am very good on Tom Jones and at sipping coffee and chatting > > > about the great bubble and have a quite new exegesis of Robinson > > > Crusoe ready. Might have to read Clarissa. Ah, my dear God. > > > > > > 6. The Romantics (we'll include Blake as is customary) What was the > > > sheath to which Byron refers? Expertise on Thomas Lovell Beddoes > > > already quite remarkable. But... suicide a possibility, of > > > course after mooning about the Protestant Cemetery in Rome > > > after being betrayed by my mistress. Also, am disturbed that > > > Keats apparently wanted to eat everything. Byron's letters > > > etc very appealing but will have to deal with the awful Germans > > > including Goethe whose last words "Give me your little paw" very > > > off putting. The Brontes -- must be dealt with and, in general, > > > except (as I now concede) for the sensibilty of Thomas Love Peacock > > > and a few others the period is like being stuck in a room > > > full of Barrymores forever. Good if confused sex, good if confused > > > talk, overseen by nautical gentlemen. > > > > > > 7. The Victorians. The Kraken is sexy but except for Dickens the > > > novels are wretched. > > > > > > 8. Modernism -- I understand that there is a center for the study > > > of Modernism. Let them do it. > > > > > > 9. More or less recent stuff. Very poor show in Poetry. Prose > > > somewhat better but I don't understand why reading most of it > > > is not conceived as similar to reading the novels of John > > > O'Hara when your adenoids are misbehaving. > > > So I wanted a salary of 90,000 a year -- at least. This was in > 93. I'd > > > require at least 3 times that now. > > > > > > On 10/29/07, Anny Ballardini <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I am also a teacher, Kenneth. And I can consider myself lucky > because > > I > > > > can > > > > do translations and teach evening adult courses to round the meager > > > > budget. > > > > I don't think I fit any prototype, and my colleagues are very > > different. > > > > It > > > > is a job but I like it, and that is why I still do it. > > > > > > > > On 10/29/07, Kenneth Wolman <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > M. Borges Accardi wrote: > > > > > > Pardon my posting here, but just saw this job announcement for > > > > creative > > > > > writing at Pueblo Col.? They're paying $25,000 for TWO semesters > of > > > > teaching > > > > > and committee work?? Are they delusional? 12 units of teaching per > > > > semester > > > > > at $12,000 a semester??? I am aghast. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you. I am now cured:-). > > > > > > > > > > ken > > > > > > > > > > ------------------ > > > > > Kenneth Wolman rainermaria.typepad.com > > > > > > > > > > "I agree with the Chekhov character who, when in a crisis, he is > > > > > reminded that 'this, too, shall pass,' responds 'Nothing > > > > > passes.'"--Philip Roth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - > http://mail.aol.com >