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I can't answer your questions, but they are most interesting and I await
eagerly someone else's answers.

TG

On 11/1/07, Marjorie Greene <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
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> Brenda Cook wrote: Interesting because he is a layman and not a Religious
> even if he is a king.
>
> I have no idea of the ritualistic aspects of the English monarch's
> coronation. I'm certain the ceremony has changed a bit through the years and
> it's been a while since the Brits put on such a magnificent spectacle. I'd
> bet it's done in Westminster Abbey with the Archbishop of Canterbury
> presiding, but I know I'll be corrected if I'm mistaken. All I know is that
> the French kings were "sacred" (p.p. of the verb "to sacre", which verb is
> obsolete) by the archbishop of Reims (by no means all, but most) and were
> henceforth "l'oint du Seigneur," (anointed of the Lord). Renan (I believe)
> called "le sacre du roi" the 8th sacrament and indeed the anointings, laying
> on of hands, etc. came extremely close to an ordination. Add in "le toucher
> du roi" and you get ever more in the realm of the religious/sacramental.
> So my questions are: how closely did the installation of the English kings
> mirror that of their French colleagues at the time of Brenda's king; and how
> "into Orders" was an anointed king deemed to be? Would Brenda's king have
> felt compelled to do extra penance precisely because of the
> religious/quasi-sacramental nature of his office?
> MG
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