I agree - I don't think there is a reasonable or rational basis for the length of retention (assuming the stories as reported are accurate) Charles Professor Charles Oppenheim Head Department of Information Science Loughborough University Loughborough Leics LE11 3TU Tel 01509-223065 Fax 01509 223053 e mail [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Broom, Doreen Sent: 01 November 2007 16:19 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Another news nugget... I thought that the Police do have retention schedules i.e. driving offences (speeding) etc are deleted after a certain period of time and would have thought that the sort of offences referred to were minor ones which had been done when they were juveniles...and they were never likely to become major criminals and would have to agree with IC. -----Original Message----- From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Paul Ticher Sent: 01 November 2007 16:12 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Another news nugget... Richard Thomas also told the Bichard enquiry, in relation to retention periods: ""[The Information Commissioner's] office cannot and should not substitute [their] judgement for that of experienced practitioners. If a reasonable and rational basis exists for a decision, that should be the end of the story." Has he changed his mind, or is he saying now that either these four police forces are not 'experienced practitioners' or that they have no 'reasonable and rational' basis for their retention of the data? Paul Ticher 0116 273 8191 22 Stoughton Drive North, Leicester LE5 5UB I hereby require any recipient of this message not to use my personal data for direct marketing purposes. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Broom, Doreen" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: Another news nugget... Yes - I saw that too and I think Mr Thomas should not have disclosed the information until the Appeal had been heard. However, I suppose we are all human.... D ________________________________ From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of datap Sent: 01 November 2007 15:32 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Another news nugget... 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