Hi,
You wrote:
>I have to balance
your unsupported declaration against the evidence to the contrary. Take it up
with all who disagree:
So where is the evidence?
>>"Templars: a
red cross paty on a white ground/mantle/surcotte, Hospitallers: a white cross
paty on a black (later also red) ground/mantle/surcotte. Even colourblind
observers may notice the difference. And after 1307/12 there would have been no
more confusion at all."
Henk
>My note about the
confusion had nothing to do with color or clothing, but transfer of property.
Before 1307, to the orders’
contemporaries, the visible difference in clothing and the heraldry on all the
orders’ property was clear enough to see the difference, as it should be
for modern people who are interested in this. After 1312 it did not matter anymore
because the property of the Templars was in the hands of the Hospitallers or in
those of the new Iberian orders who are nothing but the Templars in a thin
disguise.
It does not bode well
vide trustworthyness for a website on the Molay when they portray him dressed
in a mantle and surcote with the cross of the Teutonic order. Mind you: all
websites on medieval matters which are exclusively illustrated with 19th
c engravings or other neo-gothic art are suspect in my book.
Henk