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Hello,
may I make a suggestion?   I recently started a JISC discussion forum 
about adult learning:
http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/archives/mature-learning.html
This can get round the need for someone to create a new list and manage it.
Joining is very simple, but you can email me,  and I will join you in.

I think you could find it useful to discuss your special interests 
within a group like ours.  It would be stimulating for you and for 
the existing members.  As Martin says, people need a special filip to 
re-kindle the energy after a while.

It already has 120 members, and they have been discussing learning 
processes in very interesting ways relating to a range of contexts. 
The Niace lists are specialised and dont seem to cover that theme; 
GEM list strikes me as too big for it.

The reason I started the list, by the way, is that the Institute is 
investigating the learning of its older students, and I am starting a 
course in January about Issues in Educating and Training Mature 
Adults, but obviously we are concerned with adult education in a 
general sense.

Do joins us.
Anita

At 17:35 13/10/2007, Martin Bazley wrote:
>Hi Essex and all
>
>Discussing Adult Learning in Museums
>Technically speaking, it is pretty straightforward setting up a new 
>discussion list by following instructions at www.jiscmail.ac.uk , 
>provided certain conditions are met, mainly relating to the status 
>of the initiating organisation.
>This is how the GEM list was formed around 10 years ago, and it now 
>has over 1000 subscribers.  Managing a list is also relatively 
>undemanding and takes around an hour a month (less initially, as you 
>have no subscribers...)
>
>Making the list 'take off' is rather harder to achieve.  The 
>majority of online forums fail to generate the critical mass of 
>contributions needed to sustain dialogue and interest among users, 
>and simply wither away.  Current best practice for museums and 
>others seeking to engage new audiences is to tap into discussions 
>within their preferred channels, rather than creating new, isolated, 
>empty forums.
>
>So unless you are aiming to create a new entity or brand, I would 
>have thought it would be better to do your talking where the people 
>are already i.e. on the GEM list and on relevant, mature lists in HE 
>and FE, including the 12 lists already available via NIACE:
>http://www.niace.org.uk/information/Forms/ListSubscribe.asp
>
>A blog or wiki might be more appropriate if the aim is to build up a 
>resource of useful comments, links to articles, etc - but that would 
>require major commitment to moderation, editing, dealing with 
>technical issues etc - which is a role or set of roles requiring 
>significant expertise and experience.   Of course there is also 
>Facebook to consider, along with lots of other potential platforms.
>
>It is already difficult to keep in touch with all the channels 
>supporting similar threads of discussion.   Many people who sit next 
>to each other in an organisation or 'opposite' each other in related 
>organisations are unaware of discussions that would be relevant to 
>them and are continually reinventing the wheel or missing out on 
>important social capital, simply because they don't know about or 
>can't be bothered to subscribe to or check in on all the relevant 
>lists or forums.
>
>So if the aim is simply to facilitate online dialogue about topics 
>relating to Adult Learning in Museums, I reckon it is a no-brainer 
>to use existing lists.
>Rather than having to make people join your new list one by one, and 
>then each remember to suspend mail and sign up again after going on 
>holiday (as well as all the other lists they are on) and deal with 
>all the changes in email addresses etc etc... simply initiate new 
>dialogues with those interested among the 1113 active, intelligent, 
>articulate, considerate ...(I would go on but can sense you 
>blushing) users already subscribed to the GEM list.
>
>Martin
>Martin Bazley
>GEM list owner

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