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Dear Gary, We shall have to provide full on-site upgrade capability. For what most users need there should be no problem, but full capability includes e.g. upgrading from five year old data or downgrading to an older version. That kind of thing 1) may only be provided in Python, and 2) may require some more complex installation. The web service should be a more user friendly alternative. But none of this is written yet. Jython is probably not the way to go. It has jyst caught up with Python 2.2, and we shall be using Python 2.4 minimum as from the next release, because we need some of their functionality. Also Jython itself says it is twice as slow as Python. Yours, Rasmus --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Rasmus H. Fogh Email: [log in to unmask] Dept. of Biochemistry, University of Cambridge, 80 Tennis Court Road, Cambridge CB2 1GA, UK. FAX (01223)766002 On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, Wayne Boucher wrote: > Hello, > > The web service will not be the only option, we can provide the same code > for people to use stand-alone (this is all vapour ware so far so I can > promise this!). > > On the Jython front, as far as I remember, it's not up-to-date for either > Python or Java. Actually, I was toying with the idea of having the Java > API call the C API which calls the Python API. But not a very good idea I > don't think! > > Wayne > > On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, Gary Thompson wrote: > > > On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:27:35 +0100, Rasmus Fogh <[log in to unmask]> > > wrote: > > > > >Dear Gary, > > > > > >Backwards compatibility a lot of work, because you have to make all kinds > > >of special-case functions by hand for each language. We have not done > > >backwards compatibility code for either the Java API you have (which was > > >experimental) or the new one we are working on (which is still > > >unfinished). > > > > > >For future data we will provide an officially supported system for > > >backwards compatibility also for Java. We shall make it as smooth as > > >possible to work with. Some may be provided with the Java API, some may be > > >in the form of an upgrader in Python that we distribute separately, and > > >some may be as a web service for upgrading. > > > > Hi Thats sounds good but the idea of a web service for updates really > > worries me, firewalls and all sorts of other things can cause problems (even > > dead networking) usully at highly at inopertune moments... > > > > On the python side have you looked at the possibility of merging it with the > > java code via jython?? > > > > regards > > gary > > > > > How much we do with each > > >method will depend on how difficult it is to write and distribute it. > > > > > >Yours, > > > > > >Rasmus > > > > > > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> Dr Gary Thompson > > >> Astbury Centre for Structural Molecular Biology, > > >> University of Leeds, Astbury Building, > > >> Leeds, LS2 9JT, West-Yorkshire, UK Tel. +44-113-3433024 > > >> email: [log in to unmask] Fax +44-113-2331407 > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > > >========================================================================= > > >