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Thanks Malcolm and Faye I am not having a go at people because they work hard and may get overwhelmed by it. But, as I said, I see some dyslexics whose universities have not provided the one-to-one support that they were entitled to. The resource-led model (i.e., the disability support team) cannot meet every dyslexic's needs if those needs extend to specified support hours that exceed the team's capacity to respond, unless the team expands. An ex-PGCE student (of mine) got through his probationary teaching year by the skin of his teeth but the school will not employ him because he is making too many mistakes in English. He attended a Midlands university, got no one-to-one support, and did not acquire the skills that might have made him more employable. In this instance he could have done with more time (his 3 years at university) to enable him to become competent in using the gismos. That is not right. Lloyd ________________________________ From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Malcolm Brown Sent: 07 September 2007 10:21 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: dyslexic support tutor I tend to side with Lloyd on this. Although I have often said, like Faye, "they are adults you know" there are some students who do not seek help when they should. Having a named Dyslexia Tutor who contacts them occasionally to see how they are progressing and who often gets them through a difficult patch does, I am sure, help to reduce the drop-out rate. Also, we all know students who believe, mistakenly in some cases, that the computer & gismos they receive under the DSA will overcome their difficulties without the support of a Dyslexia Tutor. Most will, no doubt, get their degree but do we not have a responsibility to the public purse to see that the DSA is not wasted? I'm not sure about the last bit myself. Malcolm ________________________________ From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Faye Langston Sent: 06 September 2007 11:54 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: dyslexic support tutor Unfortunately with over 600 Dyslexics we are unable to maintain regular contact and as all students are essentially adults operating within HE we provide them with all the information they need but ultimately need them to come in and book an appointment for tuition...if they do not then that is their problem frankly! ________________________________ From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lloyd G. Richardson Sent: 05 September 2007 15:29 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: dyslexic support tutor Thank you Faye Our dyslexia support is pro-active; we do not 'tell students how to access support' and wait for them to come...our tutors maintain contact with students and ensure that regular support sessions are provided. We do not feel that we are qualified to judge whether or not individuals should have one-to-one support; if it has been recommended we provide it. Since some of our students are profoundly dyslexic they do require help throughout their courses to 'sustain them'. That does not mean that we are failing to help them to 'assist themselves'; it is a tacit recognition that such help (for some) needs to be on-going. Lloyd ________________________________ From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Faye Langston Sent: 05 September 2007 14:31 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: dyslexic support tutor just replying to one or 2 elements of this: ' Our commitment is to ensuring that every dyslexic student who has been recommended for one-to-one tutorial support actually gets it. I know that this student-centred (rather than resource-centred) approach is rare, at least in the Midlands. We continue to get dyslexic PGCE students who tell us that they did not have any regular one-to-one help at university, even though their Assessment Centre reports had identified and quantified the need. I was told by a former colleague in an Assessment Centre that some university disability teams were requesting that they did not recommend specific tutorial support hours for dyslexic students, no doubt to avoid the predicament of which you speak. ' I am from a Midlands University who also operates on a student-centred approach (and most do in my opinion!). Often we find that no matter how often we tell students how they can access our tuition they simply do not. It is also becoming a 'standard' for assessments to recommend tuition for EVERY Dyslexic student when many do not need it nor want it. Tuition should be a tool to self-help not something that sustains a student throughout their course as they should be working with the tutor to find strategies to assist themselves. Faye Faye Langston Disabilities Co-ordinator Coventry University Priory Street Coventry CV1 5FB 02476 888309 [log in to unmask] ________________________________ NOTICE This message and any files transmitted with it is intended for the addressee only and may contain information that is confidential or privileged. Unauthorised use is strictly prohibited. If you are not the addressee, you should not read, copy, disclose or otherwise use this message, except for the purpose of delivery to the addressee. 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