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I could not agree more on this point. To my mind Universities have not actually given due consideration to the high level skills associated with embedding technology into teaching and learning. The private sector offers realistic salaries for e-learning/C&IT expertise so universities lose out. Universities have not taken the step of developing new types of positions to accommodate the growing reality of a digital world. I have huge empathy with what phil is saying here so thought I would throw my tuppence worth into a new debate. Cheers Lorraine -----Original Message----- From: Online forum for SEDA, the Staff & Educational Development Association [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Professor Phil Race Sent: Friday, 24 August 2007 4:47 a.m. To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Like hens' teeth? Is it just me, or do we sometimes underestimate the skills and background needed to get the right people into enabling our technology-enhanced learning developments - and offer salaries too low to get the right people into these important roles? E.g. currently from SEDA jiscmail... "You will train academic staff in existing and new opportunities afforded by e-learning, provide on-going advice and technical support to all staff involved in the implementation of e-learning and report on relevant developments within the tertiary sector...: Salary: £20,458 - £23,002 with progression to £25,134" I think people who really can do all of this are very hard to find, and deserve much better. Phil Race