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Your observation is right regarding style (more Goya-like embellished by Liberty settings), I was talking of the fundamental philosophical, better social idea leading the action of painting. But as you say I am underestimating the social impact and the involvement it was able to awake. On 8/11/07, Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > I think you underestimate Rivera, and I don't see much connection to > Van Gogh beyond his choice in some of his easel paintings and prints > of peasants for subjects (although his handling of them is very > different). > > Mark > > > At 05:38 PM 8/11/2007, you wrote: > >It is more or less what I thought of her, with all the personal > >disappointment such a position can carry. And my idea of Diego Rivera is > not > >much higher. Van Gogh had already dug forcefully and madly into the same > >material for which Rivera is praised. > > > > > >On 8/11/07, Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > > > Or the Little Mermaid, who has joined her as a subject of Oaxacan > > > folk pottery for sale to gringos and wealthy Mexican collectors, or > > > maybe Harry Potter. It's quite a phenomenon. As Steve notes, she made > > > some powerful paintings, and though hardly alone, she was one of a > > > relatively small sisterhood of woman painters in the period. But her > > > reputation it seems to me is overblown, colored by the legend she did > > > much to fashion (a telling recent show of photos of her, many by > > > top-rank photographers, were notably all posed, her persona carefully > > > groomed for the camera) and by her use of folk symbols that gratify > > > North American and European yearnings to believe in the supposed > > > childlike exoticism of the dusky races. > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > At 01:07 PM 8/11/2007, you wrote: > > > >Frida Kahlo is the Mount Fuji of Mexico. > > > > > > > >Hal > > > > > > > >"The more you throw tomatoes on Sopranoes, the more they yell." > > > > --Georges Perec > > > > (attrib. to Unsofort and Tchetera) > > > > > > > >Halvard Johnson > > > >================ > > > >[log in to unmask] > > > >http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard/index.html > > > >http://entropyandme.blogspot.com > > > >http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com > > > >http://www.hamiltonstone.org > > > >http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard/vidalocabooks.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Aug 11, 2007, at 10:32 AM, Kenneth Wolman wrote: > > > > > > > >>The August 10 entry cuts the insides out of me. "Everything is > > > >>broken." I once went to see my mother in the nursing home. She > > > >>took one look at me and started to cry. What a comment! She was > > > >>younger than your mother but everything was broken far earlier. I > > > >>sometimes think it broke in 1927 and this was 1992. "What's wrong, > > > >>mom" asks the idiot son. "EVERYTHING!" she wails. > > > >> > > > >>Everything was broken. She didn't have your mother's facility with > > > >>words. She had bitterness but no humor to flavor it. No truth > > > >>except in delirium. Flavors of lye and lie, always. > > > >> > > > >>As for Frida on a skateboard, nothing is sacred and maybe that's a > > > >>good thing. I doubt Ms. Kahlo would mind. Mobility where hers was > > > >>robbed from her. > > > >> > > > >>ken > > > >> > > > >>-------------------- > > > >>Ken Wolman rainermaria.typepad.com > > > >> > > > >>We're neither pure, nor wise, nor good > > > >>We'll do the best we know. > > > >>We'll build our house and chop our wood > > > >>And make our garden grow... > > > >> > > > >> Bernstein/Wilbur, "Candide" > > > >