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Still, definitely a retreat from modernity. Roger On 8/23/07, kasper salonen <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > ... he'd consider IT less ... > > On 23/08/07, kasper salonen <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > I think he'd consider less a retreat from life & more a delving, > > diving into life at its most metaphysical. no less 'real', he & some > > would feel, than any hunchback in the park > > > > KS > > > > On 22/08/07, Roger Day <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > I actually love the lyricism and the way he uses language. It sings to > > > me as no other poetry, and it's the archaism, the tone and his word > > > usage that does this to me, but I cannot hide from the fact that the > > > content is almost a full scale retreat from modernity, from life. > > > Which I suppose is one way of dealing with the violence of his time. > > > > > > Roger > > > > > > On 8/22/07, kasper salonen <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > I don't mind the hint of archaism. it's still fresh & attacking & > > > > rumbling & wonderful to me. if being 'modern' means relinquishing the > > > > kind of tone possible with Dylan's type oflanguage, I don't think I > > > > care to be modern. at least not all the time > > > > > > > > KS > > > > > > > > On 21/08/07, Roger Day <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > > If you want to stay away from the 20th century, yeah, Dylan's yr man. > > > > > > > > > > Roger > > > > > > > > > > On 8/21/07, kasper salonen <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > > > another utterly humbling place to go for language recycled & built > > > > > > into visions is Dylan Thomas > > > > > > > > > > > > KS > > > > > > > > > > > > On 20/08/07, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > > > > Intriguing take, Tad. bpNichol once made the same point, saying, if > > > > > > > your nouns & verbs need support, they're not doing the proper work, or > > > > > > > words to that effect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I found the range of poets you've written about intriguing, wide, & > > > > > > > often opposing.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doug > > > > > > > On 19-Aug-07, at 12:06 PM, TheOldMole wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you may want to start rethinking if your poem starts to be > > > > > > > > modifier-driven. I've actually written something on this, which you > > > > > > > > may find totally useless, but it's on my website at > > > > > > > > http://www.opus40.org/tadrichards/essays.html under "Tired Words - > > > > > > > > Working Words." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Douglas Barbour > > > > > > > 11655 - 72 Avenue NW > > > > > > > Edmonton Ab T6G 0B9 > > > > > > > (780) 436 3320 > > > > > > > http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Latest book: Continuations (with Sheila E Murphy) > > > > > > > http://www.uap.ualberta.ca/UAP.asp?LID=41&bookID=664 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every time Dick Cheney smiles > > > > > > > an angel in heaven > > > > > > > gets waterboarded. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jon Stewart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > My Stuff: http://www.badstep.net/ > > > > > "In peace, sons bury their fathers. In war, fathers bury their sons." > > > > > Roman Proverb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > My Stuff: http://www.badstep.net/ > > > "In peace, sons bury their fathers. In war, fathers bury their sons." > > > Roman Proverb > > > > > > -- My Stuff: http://www.badstep.net/ "In peace, sons bury their fathers. In war, fathers bury their sons." Roman Proverb