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I thought foxholes were to do with WWI and concealment in trench warfare? Under which conditions presumably many who had thought themselves atheists discovered they were, if only temporarily, not so. joanna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Weiss" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 6:01 PM Subject: again Re: on the etc side > Or fox=corruption of French faux, hence, "there are no atheists in false > holes." > > At 12:25 PM 8/17/2007, you wrote: >>What are foxes atheists? -good for them >>P >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On >>Behalf Of Roger Day >>Sent: 17 August 2007 13:25 >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: Re: on the etc side >> >>I thought the point of S&M was for the participants to gain some sort >>of pleasure (for me, some indeterminate value of pleasure) from the, >>uh, experience. It looks too much like torture, and seems to me the >>govt and the private kind seem to normalise each other. Or something >>like that. See also 'camwhores' in this respect somewhat. >> >>The superiority bit is new on me, although I'm a bit sheltered in >>these regards. Goths are insufferable, and seem to lie along the same >>axis. >> >>With regards to atheists and foxholes, I hate that phrase. I think >>there were and are a lot of atheists in foxholes. >> >>Roger >> >>On 8/17/07, Dominic Fox <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> > andrew burke wrote: >> > > An interesting insight into business a la The Sopranos ... by Tom >> > > Robbins in The Village Voice at >> > > http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0733,robbins,77515,2.html >> > > >> > > I think kinky sex is a near cousin to poetry. That's my excuse ... >> > > >> > > >> > >>http://chasemeladies.blogspot.com/2005/01/non-kinky-sex-is-waste-of-time.htm >>l >> > >> > Kinky sex nevertheless requires the existence of non-kinky sex in order >> > for its kinks to be discernible as such. What would be the point of >> > S&M, >> > if it didn't allow its practitioners to go around feeling superior to >> > people who only do "vanilla"? >> > >> > Dominic >> > >> >> >>-- >>My Stuff: http://www.badstep.net/ >>"In peace, sons bury their fathers. In war, fathers bury their sons." >>Roman Proverb >> >> >>-- >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.0/957 - Release Date: 16/08/2007 >>13:46