Russell Pardon me for being cynical but my first exposure to Read codes, around 1992, was not quite the uplifting experience I expected. The experience has got worse over the years. Two words come to mind. Why and bother. Seriously. The codes are deranged. Have a good life. Forgeddaboudit! Declan <<I have a gent who had a right inguinal hernia repair recently (a revision as it happens) who developed a sizeable seroma which required draingage. Can't find an appropriate code. Any bright ideas? >>>