Hi Jon, Thanks for this comment. Hope it inspires others to look at the detail of the AP document too! Some discussion below- I'd appreciate further feedback from others on this (although those who originally created the DC property Audience Education.Level may find this reiterates previous discussions- however, no harm in re-visiting I feel). > re: > *4. Use of further IEEE LOM elements in the DC-Ed AP.* The working > draft has a table listing relevant LOM elements and giving information > about them. Do any of these look like properties you would wish to > describe for educational resources? Have we missed anything important? > > > The draft AP maps Audience educationLevel to LOM 5.6 Educational.Context NB: The Dublin Core definition for the Audience.educationLevel property states "A general statement describing the education or training context. Alternatively, a more specific statement of the location of the audience in terms of its progression through an education or training context." -- http://dublincore.org/documents/dcmi-terms/ I took this to mean that this DC property is rather broadly interpreted to include both broad context and more specific educational levels. The original proposal for this property directly linked it to LOM 5.6 Educational.Context as well: http://dublincore.org/groups/education/Audience-Level-Proposal.shtml So, to my mind, technically the mapping works with DC's intention for this property. However, your point is a valid one. More below: > > I think this mapping is not really accurate & fits much better with > LOM 5.7 Educational.TypicalAgeRange, but even then is not a great fit. > The semantics that I interpret from LOM Educational.Context are to do > with educational "setting" (k-12, university or higher education, & > vocational training). It may be true in some examples that these > settings could be described in terms of "level" but I really think > it's wrong to do so. I do think that the closest fit to what you are talking about, Jon, is the LOM Classification element (Purpose: Educational Level), for which, as an example, the UK LOM Core application profile recommends use of the UK Educational Levels vocabulary: http://www.ukoln.ac.uk/metadata/education/ukel/ which provides a central spine that UK educational levels are mapped to. However, the UK LOM Core also recommends the use of UK Educational Contexts for LOM 5.6 Educational.Context, which reads as follows ( http://www.ukoln.ac.uk/metadata/education/ukec/ ): * nursery education * primary education * secondary education * sixth form college * further education * higher education * continuous professional development * vocational training * community education Most of which looks like educational levels to me, but gets a bit fuzzy around "continuous professional development", "vocational training" and "community education" which aren't really levels at all, rather are more purely contexts. > > Having said that, I think that LOM 5.6 Educational.Context is a very > useful element. For example, in an Australian profile of SCORM known > as "Vetadata", there is a default value for LOM 5.6 > Educational.Context (= training) -- this automatically groups Vetadata > resources as being useful within the vocational education & training > (VET) sector. > > So, I'm wondering whether we need a new refinement for Audience that > maps more directly to LOM 5.6 Educational.Context? I'm wondering now too: but I'm also wondering if we really need to re-think the original intention of the DC property- is keeping it simple and folding these quite similar things into one property OK? Do we need to replicate the LOM by having a load of different elements? I'm really not sure- the metadata purist in me sees the point, but I also like the idea of keeping it simple when the boundary between the two is quite fuzzy. Thoughts? S. -- Sarah Currier Co-Moderator, Dublin Core Education Community Product Manager, Intrallect Ltd. http://www.intrallect.com 2nd Floor, Regent House Blackness Road Linlithgow EH49 7HU United Kingdom Tel: +44 870 234 3933 Mob: +44 (0)7980855801 E-mail: [log in to unmask] --