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Dear Compatriots: Is there any chance that ccp4 and coot might allow gmane.org to archive mail? The jiscmail archives are almost unusable, and ready access to previous postings helps everyone. http://news.gmane.org/ Here's an example: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.shells.zsh.user They encrypt email addresses. Bill William G. Scott contact info: http://chemistry.ucsc.edu/~wgscott