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Andrew, I could run your tests for Lancsaster to RAL as part of my CASTOR tests if you can send me details of what you do in your tests so as to be able to make a comparison. Graeme, i will use Glasgow ,cheers, you are a DPM site is your endpoint still svr018.gla.scotgrid.ac.uk:8443/dpm/gla.scotgrid.ac.uk/home/atlas/ Brian