Back in, I think, December 2006, we ran a poll regarding commercial use
of the list. And I truly do not mind at all when an organisation or
individual in good standing (ie a contributor of things other than
adverts) runs a simple, single, hype-free message to offer their wares
when they are relevant to us. We learn a great deal from education.
What I take as abuse is an attempt to get around our rules (the more so
since the JISCMail rules are stern about commercial use). I am amazed
that an organisation has harvested email addresses from our list to use
in an email shot, and the more amazed that this organisation offers
education in Data Protection.
I feel there are serious lessons they need to learn from this. I am
fondly imagining that they will now be actively removing all such
harvested addresses lest they be named and shamed in the future.
Simon Howarth wrote:
>
> I know who this organisation is and I receive contact under the very
> same conditions. I have, up to know, not done anything much, but feel
> I must stand up and be counted and say that what is written below is
> not an isolated incident. I won’t name and shame at this point,
> suffice to say that the person that dispenses advice only seems to do
> so just before they place an “ad” on the list for their services.
>
>
>
> I too am a consultant in information privacy and data protection with
> public sector clients all over the country, but I would never overtly
> advertise on here as I believe it devalues the list. I have on
> occasion contacted members off list with a note that “I am here”, but
> that is all (as far as I recall). My organisation also provides
> courses etc., I wonder if the list would be OK with many private
> organisations advertising on this list? I for one find the list
> incredibly useful and informative and I would hate for one rogue
> outfit to have all non-education organisations banned from this list,
> not least because they have blatantly run roughshod over what they are
> supposedly experts in! Do people really want to deal with such
> organisations, I wonder?
>
>
>
> Can we just stop “overt” advertising, or if it is deemed useful how
> about inviting “us that would like to offer services” the opportunity
> to do so on maybe one day a month, so at least people are expecting it
> and take action accordingly? Just a thought.
>
>
>
> Simon Howarth.
>
>
>
> *From:* This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Tim Trent
> *Sent:* 03 July 2007 09:55
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* [data-protection] This really is not good practice, nor is
> it welcome
>
>
>
> As a moderator of this list I received a long email today form a list
> member. The nub is this paragraph:
>
> "I recently starting receiving unsolicited e-mails from a company
> claiming to provide DP information, but also advertising a large
> number of their courses. I have a copy of the e-mail correspondence
> if required. After some effort and repeated e-mails, the company
> concerned finally admitted that I had not, as they said invited this
> contact, nor had my PA (I wish) given consent when they rang. They
> put me on their mailing list because one of their "colleagues" had
> "helped me" with a DP question and had therefore deemed it appropriate
> to add me to their mailing list."
>
> There is no valid argument for behaving in this manner. If a company
> is a purveyor of course we have already agreed that the list may be
> used to make one simple clean advertisement. We ran a poll on this
> some time ago, and the results may be inspected on the JISCMail site.
>
> I am firing this general shot across the bows of this organisation via
> the individual who is a member here. Membership of this list is a
> privilege normally extended to all, not a right. It would be a shame
> if we degenerated into a closely moderated mailing list.
>
> I am seriously tempted to ask my correspondent to name and shame the
> organisation concerned.
>
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