Dear Eleanor, Yes the native is a dimer and we did the search using the dimer as a model but we had similar results (i.e. all programs find one molecule). The graphs from TRUNCATE show rather "normal" and I am attaching a gif file with the plot for the cumulative intensity. As for pseudo-translation running the "Analyse Data for MR" option in ccp4 in the patterson map we are getting a significant peak at fractional coordinates 0.4897 0.0 0.4767. How this can help ? Do we need to apply this pseudo translation to the solution we are getting from molrep ? many thanks Demetres P.S. I will summarize for the members of the list all the suggestions I will get at the end Eleanor Dodson wrote: > You dont say whether the molecules in the native cell form a dimer - > if so I would search with that (you may need to turn off the packing > search) > > Or whether there is a pseudo translation vector in the mutant form.. > > Or what the data analysis graphs from TRUNCATE show - are they "normal"? > > Eleanor > > Demetres D. Leonidas wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> we have encountered a problem in solving one mutant structure. The >> mutant protein crystallizes in the same space group as the native >> (C2) but the unit cell dimensions are different. These for the native >> structure are 101.2 33.1 73.4 90 90.3 90 and for the mutant 160.4 >> 32.3 107.0 90 125.7 90. As a result the mutant structure has four >> molecules in the asymmetric unit while the native had two. When we >> run molecular replacement all programs (CNS, molrep, and amore) find >> only two molecules. Phaser finds four but when we try to refine the >> Rfree does not drop below 0.44 if we use four molecules and 0.53 if >> we only use two no matter how well we built the molecule and >> regardless of any addition of water molecules (the resolution of the >> data is 2.1). The interesting thing is that in the electron density >> map we can clearly see density for a substrate analog that was >> included in the crystallization media. Do you thing that we have a >> case of twinning here ? We have to mention that Tod Yates served did >> not indicate any perfect merohedral twinning (partial merohedral >> twinning for this space group is not possible). >> >> We would appreciate any comments >> >> Many thanks >> >> Demetres >> > > -- Demetres D. Leonidas, Ph.D. Structural Biology & Chemistry Group Institute of Organic and Pharmaceutical Chemistry The National Hellenic Research Foundation 48, Vassileos Constantinou Avenue Athens 116 35, Greece ================================================== Tel. +30 210 7273841 (office) +30 210 7273895 (lab) Fax. +30 210 7273831 E-mail: [log in to unmask] URL: http://athena.eie.gr ==================================================