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HBA1C is it a case of Stockhausen Syndrome?. A psychological state in which the victims of overly complex music and/or art develop an irrational relationship with the work. This solidarity can sometimes lead to absolute defense of the work, outside of pragmatic and realistic views. If the defender says that it is just their opinion, this is not a sufferer. If the defender claims that you are wrong, they are right and anybody who disagrees with them is out to get them, then this is probably a sufferer. BW John -----Original Message----- From: Clinical biochemistry discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Steve Angel Sent: 12 July 2007 13:40 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Goodbye A1c? In my opinion, digging in or grumbling about this will be counterproductive. Pass the information along, and let the free market decide - I've little doubt that in due course, our clinical colleagues will come to recognize this for the useless piece of trivia that it is. --- Dr. Steven Angel, MD, FRCPC General Pathologist Royal University Hospital Saskatoon, SK S7N 0W8 _____ > Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 10:17:25 +0100 > From: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Goodbye A1c? > To: [log in to unmask] > > As this is just a question of which fiddle factor to apply, we plan to > offer what our clinicians want. > > When we went from Gly Hb to DCCT-aligned we gave them both values for 12 > months and then dropped GlyHb - we will wait until they tell us what to > do. > > > TIM > ************************************************************************ > ************* > Prof. Tim Reynolds, > Queen's Hospital, > Belvedere Rd, > Burton-on-Trent, > Staffordshire, > DE13 0RB > > work tel: 01283 511511 ext. 4035 > work fax: 01283 593064 > work email: [log in to unmask] > home email: [log in to unmask] > ************************************************************************ > ************** > IMPORTANT: This email is intended for the use of the individual > addressee(s)named above and may contain information that is confidential > privileged or unsuitable for overly sensitive persons with low > self-esteem, no sense of humour or irrational religious beliefs [if you > want to believe in fairy stories and hug pixies that's up to you]. 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This says that we will all have to triple > report - (1) Correct IFCC Hba1c in the new units, (2) a derived 'DCCT' > number using the NGSP/IFCC master equation and (3) 'APG equivalent' > derived from the yet to be completed international study as long as this > fulfils certain a priori conditions. > > Readers of this discussion list will know my views on this- I won't > rehearse them! > > regards to all > > J > > > Dr Jonathan Middle > Deputy Director, UK NEQAS Birmingham > 0121 414 7300, fax 0121 414 1179 > ----------------------------------------------- > Please use [log in to unmask] for PERSONAL work-related email Please > use [log in to unmask] for UK NEQAS service-related email For > work-unrelated personal email please ask for my private Gmail address > ----------------------------------------------- > All opinions expressed in this email are mine alone and are not > necessarily representative of the views of the UK NEQAS organisation, UK > NEQAS Birmingham (Wolfson EQA Laboratory), University Hospital > Birmingham NHS Foundation Trust or University of Birmingham. > ------------------------------------------------ > The content of this message may be confidential and legally priviledged. > If you receive it in error please delete it immediately from your > system. Thank you. > ------------------------------------------------ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Clinical biochemistry discussion list on behalf of PETER HUDSON > Sent: Thu 12/07/2007 09:21 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Goodbye A1c? > > Dear all > > This article popped up on Medscape yesterday: > http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/559262?src=mp . It is the proposal > to report HbA1c as an equivalent Mean Blood Glucose. One or two list > members will be aware that I have been grumbling about this for a while. > Does the profession really need yet another derived parameter with a > wide prediction interval? > > Peter > > Dr. Peter R. 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