Yes Penny I agree. But your reference is to the past. My reference to pension-age discrimination and longevity is still relevant, and will be at least until 2020.

 

(The ‘married woman’s NI contribution’ was a bad investment for many: but at least women had the choice, which men did not.)

 

 

Yes - and many women now between 60 and 65 years started their working lives when it was still legal to discriminate against women in jobs, official unequal pay was also still legal, and those married women who were working were steered into the non-pensionable 'married women's' NI contribution unless they objected. 

Penny

 

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Change ‘woman’ for ‘man’ throughout Jay’s comment, and her statements are no less true. (Different genders = Different constraints)

 

We must get away from the “me victim” complaint to the “we can fix it” phenomenon.

 

Jay asks: “Does anyone seriously argue that women should not have equal rights with men?”  Well I certainly don’t.

 

But equally, should not men have equal rights with women? Martin pointed to anti-male blinkeredness on the part of the CSA. State pensions are the same.

 

All my lucky close relatives are up to 5 years younger than me, but retired already and as females can draw a pension at 60. Poor male muggins must keep going to age 65 (bringing up the next generation – all male, alas!). The discrimination of different pension ages gives women some £20,000 or more than equivalent males. But we tough males are not aloud to cry “Victimisation!” (I try not to do that anyhow, because I recognize that class position is a stronger determinant of well-being than gender.)

 

Finally, the knock-down sex-discriminator is the grim reaper, who gives women 5-10 extra years of life. Is it not peculiar that for Jay the ills of old-age  are turned into an affliction for females “who have parents as they age, or a partner …”.

 

 

 

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