In this country, the Mob used "capisce" and it
trickled down into the general population. But what
petty grounds for criticizing Alison!
Candice
--- Anny Ballardini <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Once again and on a personal level, I am on another
> list where the
> List Manager started being harrassed by a member
> with infinite mails
> that degraded him to the lowest possible levels the
> English vocabulary
> allows to insult anybody. Funny to note, every mail
> directed to the
> List Manager ended with :
>
> "Capisce?"
>
> (Another mistake, it should have been "Capisci?")
>
> I therefore read a denigratory remark in that final
> "Capiche" which
> would not be out of place in the present context.
>
> Best regards,
> Anny Ballardini
>
>
> On 6/9/07, Anny Ballardini
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Just in terms of correctness towards languages,
> and referring to the
> > direct message that Alison addressed to me
> publicly :
> >
> > "Capiche" is a mistake
> >
> > in Italian "che" is read "ke" to have that "sh"
> sound you have to use "sce":
> >
> > "Capisce"
> >
> > if you use "Capisce" you are using the form of
> "respect", for those
> > who speak German it is the "Sie", "Sie koennen das
> verstehen" or
> > literally "Verstehen Sie das?" If you speak French
> it is the Vous,
> > "Vous entendez ca, n'est pas?" I'd rather suggest
> that "capisci"
> > followed by a question mark would have been the
> right spelling of what
> > she wanted to convey.
> >
> > On my side I do not think she was extremely nice
> towards me. The
> > passionate she might have been I do not accept
> much that has been
> > written in the latest days. Statements just thrown
> out without giving
> > anybody the possibility of differing.
> >
> > If I am taking this too personally, please let me
> know. The fact I
> > highlighted before that there had to be "factions"
> _or you are with me
> > or you are against me_ did not suit my basic ideas
> of how a list
> > should be.
> >
> > I have to run to school....
> > Anyhow, my best wishes for the choice taken.
> >
> > Anny Ballardini
> > Poetryetc Co-Mgr.
> >
> > On 6/9/07, Joseph Duemer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > Alison Croggon has just signed off Poetryetc.
> Presumably everyone saw her
> > > farewell message. I would simply note that over
> the last 24 hours Alison
> > > insulted the entire list membership three times:
> > >
> > > 1. "I thought it was a given that no opinion
> rehearsed here has the
> > > imprimatur of Divine Right. I only claim my own
> sensibility. I have reasons
> > > for thinking as I do, and if questioned I will
> tell you what those reasons
> > > are. I thought that this process was known as
> "discussion"; and certainly
> > > during the many years I ran this list, it was
> described as a "discussion
> > > list". Perhaps things have changed while I was
> looking elsewhere."
> > >
> > > This came in as a response to an utterly
> inoffensive post that happened to
> > > take issue with something Alison had written.
> > >
> > > 2. "Slumbrous"
> > >
> > > That is Alison's characterization, just now, of
> this lively, interesting &
> > > unwieldy amalgam of personalities.
> > >
> > > 3. "[Poetryetc] seems to have become so closed."
> > >
> > > I hadn't noticed this new uptight & closed
> Poetryetc myself. Had you?
> > >
> > > To Alison's friends & admirers, I would say that
> I am sorry it came to this,
> > > but personally I found her bullying, hectoring
> style of argumentation, in
> > > which she simply waved away those who disagreed
> with her & then changed the
> > > subject or repeated what she had already said
> (at greater length) tiresome.
> > > I have seldom run across a more humorless
> personality online. I think she
> > > regretted giving up ownership of the list. I do
> not regret her decision to
> > > leave.
> > >
> > > Joseph Duemer
> > > Poetryetc Co-Mgr.
> > >
> >
>
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