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Entirely agree - a lecturer would be "low risk" in my book too and would not have had any more than paper screening. Our college clients do offer a screen tho but its purely voluntary. With regards, Jane Jane Fairburn BSc (Hons) RSpCPH (OH) CMIOSH Occupational Health Services Director Mobile 07770 638 268 Office 01925 227 000 Direct 01925 294 775 ________________________________ From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sue Morley Sent: 05 June 2007 14:13 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Retirement age Hi Sara I'm with you on this one. Last year I received a PEHQ for an 85yr old (Lecturer in Biosciences). My approach had to be, would I have passed him fit if he was 45, and the answer was yes. However I did ask the department to undertake a risk assessment to ensure that if he was supervising or undertaking laboratory experimental work that neither he or the students would be at risk. Also when allocating his workload for the year that adjustments maybe needed to take account of his cognitive function. The department had not taken this into consideration as he was still tearing up and down the stairs as he had twenty years ago. They carried out a risk assessment with him and he is still happily working and tearing up and down the stairs!! Sue ________________________________ From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sara Werry Sent: 05 June 2007 11:22 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Retirement age Hi Jane It is an interesting issue health screening to see if an employee can carry on in the role over 65 could this be seen as discriminatory in itself? If they have been doing the job with no problems should health screening be used as a predictive tool? If they have been doing the job with problems then this is likely to be highlighted under a management referral as for anyone any age. Regards Sara ________________________________ From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jane Fairburn Sent: 05 June 2007 11:13 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Retirement age Just for information, the employee who is abroad with a British contract is eligible to make a claim to an Employment Tribunal assuming he meets the usual qualifications on length of service and 'employee' status. (ref Croft v Veta, Botham v MOD, Serco Ltd v Lawson) and 'Retirement' is now only a "potentially fair" reason for dismissal and no longer automatically fair as prior to the Age Regulations. The employer must write to the employee giving notice of intention to dismiss and give the employee and opportunity to request an extension (best done in fixed term chunks) assuming the employer can show a genuine material factor against an extension, then he is at risk of an unfair dismissal claim. Obviously not an OH issue per se but certainly a topical and interesting one. I recommend health screening for some workers prior to the business making a decision. Regards, Jane Jane Fairburn Occupational Health Services Director Mobile : 07770 638 268 Office : 01925 227 000 www.people-am.com <http://www.people-am.com/> ________________________________ From: [log in to unmask] on behalf of Edgar Hopkin Sent: Tue 05/06/2007 07:39 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Retirement age Morning all, On a similar note, what about employees of a British company, recruited in the UK(and contracts signed on British soil) but working overseas. Should they wish, can they work beyond 65years? Is a UK contract allowed to state an age where employment overseas must end? Will there be a reliance on the local labour laws to effect this? Regards Ed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Willey, Catherine" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, 04, June, 2007 14:05 Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] Retirement age Good morning Could anyone help me with a retirement question? A sub-contractor has been told by his company that he has to retire shortly as he is turning 65. He wishes to continue work - because he needs the income. Is there any legislation that can support his request or is he bound by company policy? Thanks Cathy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please remove this footer before replying. OCC-HEALTH ARCHIVES: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html FORTHCOMING CONFERENCES AND EDUCATIONAL EVENTS: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH JOBS http://OHJobs.drmaze.net <http://ohjobs.drmaze.net/> OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH NURSING EDUCATION http://www.aohne.org.uk <http://www.aohne.org.uk/> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please remove this footer before replying. 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