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Thanks for that answer Greta I have got your book - as recommended by Cynthia Atwell - and constantly refer to it. Its about changing peoples idea about what we could be doing, rather than going with the flow because its easier Regards Trish ======================================== Message Received: Jun 22 2007, 09:00 AM From: "Greta Thornbory" To: [log in to unmask] Cc: Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] pre employment medical questionnaires Presumably you all mean pre-employment health questionnaires or health declaration forms? There is a growing body of evidence developing about the use of these forms and the move today is to go along the route of HR asking three questions: • Do you need any special aids/adaptations to assist you at work, whether or not you have a disability? • Are you having, or waiting for, treatment or investigations of any kind at present? • Have you ever had any health problems which may have been caused or made worse by work? – Answer YES to any one of the questions and the candidate must be referred to OH for assessment – Answer NO to all questions and accept as fit for employment » Hargreaves C, Screen Test, Occupational Health journal July 06 Where there are specific health hazards then a risk assessment form should be completed by HR and sent to OH asking them to assess the suitability of someone for that specific task/area of work. This will cut out all the unnecessary screening of health declaration forms, especially as all the research is showing that 1. people don't answer them honestly and 2. 99% of people are not rejected. (One HR manager in a national company told me of the 9000 people she had employed over a period of many years OH had never turned down anyone!!) There is a whole chapter about pre-employment in our book which deal with this subject although the pre-employment form we have given is the one recommended by Whitaker's research in the early 1990s, the 3 questions above came after we had written the book but we will include it when we update it in a couple of years. As for management referrals yet again I attach the management referral form we recommend in the book which says it all really! Please contact me off line you need any more Kind regards, Greta Greta Thornbory Consultant, Occupational Health & Education Consultant Editor, OH Journal www.gtenterprises-uk.com Tel: 01235 770156 Mob: 07778 518 027 ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Hall To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] pre employment medical questionnaires Janet, If you want to contact me off line I can send you bits and pieces that we have. Can I ask the list for their thoughts on pre employment forms. I am looking at this for my assignment.and my ABSOLUTE bugbear is Being opened/photocopied by HR - yes I know some don't state medical in confidence, but it just bugs me Asking totally inappropriate questions eg whether or not they suffer with piles.... I know this company is a sandwich maker, but they have already answered 6 bowel orientated questions by the time they get to this one. Bunching of allergies and asthma together, which is normally ticked yes because at some stage during their lives they may have had an unmedicated wheeze. Having a one fits all pre employment medical questionnaire I better stop now before I get into my stride. So please does anybody out there have any guidance, referencs or general thoughts on this subject. Looking forward to your replies Many Thanks Trish ======================================== Message Received: Jun 18 2007, 05:19 PM From: "Janet O'Neill" To: [log in to unmask] Cc: Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] mangament referrals Hi I am doing an assignment on management referrals to OH for all possible reasons and wondered if anyone could help with benchmarking. I am looking for policies, procedures, referral forms, audits - or anything at all even if it is your opinion thanks Janet O'Neill ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please remove this footer before replying. 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